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  • Hey Guys I need little info on Dulles, VA. I hope anyone from there can help me out.
    Pre & Post Academy Schedule
    Then Regular Schedule and AWS for Rookies
    How long before joining any teams.
    How is the moral and management there.

    and what area is best to live for a guy with the family.

    Thank you in advance for your help.

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    • V_AntCBP
      V_AntCBP commented
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      same questions about Seattle if anyone can help, thanks much

  • Has anyone actually been able to take the polygraph during the shutdown? I know a few people have been scheduled, and cancelled. I know some people even got emails saying they won't happen until the shut down is over. There was a BPA applicant who actually got to take his last week though, so maybe a things actually are still moving slowly, unless it's just different for Border Patrol.

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    • JB411
      JB411 commented
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      Thats my next step and its driving me crazy thinking about that question. I think its a no but I guess there may be special circumstances for some to go through.

    • DP23
      DP23 commented
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      I haven't seen anyone do the poly during the shutdown, I was still able to do the SI a few weeks ago though.

  • I am considering changing jobs, my BI has not been completed yet. Sitting at 38%. Will changing jobs delay the BI or not? Anyone one been in this position before? Would love to hear feedbacks and suggestions.

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    • Elgin_87
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      What do you mean by changing jobs? You mean locations? If you change Locations everything should carry over and cancel out the old app.. Jobs on the other hand, I'm not to sure.

  • If you are going through a BI with your current agency. (BOP does it every 5 years.) Do you think they would use that information for the BI on your CBP hiring process? Just curious.

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    • klocklear86
      klocklear86 commented
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      They do not. I have been with the BOP for 3 years. I am currently 19-2 GS9. I am waiting on my BI to clear. Currently at 63% on CASS

    • Evolution81
      Evolution81 commented
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      nope.........

    • Elgin_87
      Elgin_87 commented
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      Thanks... klocklear86 Wish you the best of luck... I have been in the BOP going on 7 years. 18-2 50%

  • FLETC is on track all class schedules have not missed a beat . We’re just not getting paid. The biggest problem is the FGS! We are loosing an average of 5 per class. If you know you are going to FLETC and you can not run 1.5 miles in 15 minutes start training NOW! So sad to see people going home after all this time

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    • ES90
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      I'm glad to hear it. It was embarrassing when I was down there watching each class coming in after mine get get fatter and more out of shape. If you can't prepare yourself in the year+ it often takes to get to FLETC you deserve to wash out. We only lost one to the FGS but there should have been more. It was impossible to can trainees who deserved canning, is that changing?

    • Evolution81
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      good people need to train harder 1.5 in 15 isnt crazy

    • Elgin_87
      Elgin_87 commented
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      tjcterry2 I don't know if you meant it, but your post is very motivating. 1.5m in 15 min isn't crazy. You can go form the couch potato to 1.5 in under 15min in 6-8 weeks. It is very achievable.

    • Hou33guy
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      15min when u 1st get there or mid way or by the end or ur fletc training

  • They give you multiple attempts even one 2 days before graduation. They use to send you back to your home port let you return after failure however we were informed by the 1 star school commandant about a month ago that is no longer a guarantee

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    • Putting the Hiring delays aside, I feel really sorry for all the current CBPO's/Fed workers who are having to deal with the shutdown. I have family in the Feds and it's getting tough. Even people who had a month's worth of emergency funds are going to be running low on cash soon. With TSA Officers already starting to quit, it makes you wonder if there's not a critical mass imminent. As soon as more of the essential employees start calling in or quitting and day-to-day life grinds to a halt, I bet the politicians get their crap together real quick.

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      • N.N.
        N.N. commented
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        merlin436 is moral worse off in BP than in OFO?

      • merlin436
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        Moral or morale?

        The BP has long claimed to be the more moral of the two. Most recent reckonings lean otherwise.

        Morale-wise...OFO was created from day one with zero morale. By now, most of OFO is used to lacking it.

        The BP took a recent money hit in the aftermath of their AOU abuse scandal. That, among other things, has currently cut much of their morale legs out from under them.

      • N.N.
        N.N. commented
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        merlin436 morale, sorry for the typo ha. Thank you for the info though. I know CBP in general has some of the lowest job satisfaction survey results in the Feds, but wasn't sure if that's more so coming from BP or OFO. It obviously varies from person to person, but I think the working conditions with OFO are undoubtably superior to BP. Better locations, safer working conditions, less physical/grueling work, etc.

      • merlin436
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        It's not like there is any comprehensive morale measuring stick for either position.

        To understand much of it, you really need a comprehensive understanding of much of the past. In part, OFO tends to be older, have more work experience, more likely to have a college degree and more likely to be female or a minority other than Hispanic. That tends to lean OFO towards being less impulsive, less enthusiastic towards the job. OFO tends to work to live versus live to work more than the BP.

        OFO tends to have better mobility as well...which helps. Unlike the BP, which has almost 90% of their people on/near the Mexican border, OFO has 70+% of it's people of the southern border and thousands working urban areas like JFK, Miami, Chicago, etc.

        One man's meat is another man's poison though...so it really depends on what an individual needs from the agency to make him happy.

    • ES90 it’s pretty sad in my opinion I’m 49 years old and I can run circles around half my class not trying to judge anyone but after the first test we had 5MONTHS! Some are working out twice a day and are gonna make it however I have witnessed some who need to make up 6, 7 minutes out partying every weekend bragging about the nice restaurants they visited in Jacksonville and Savannah. now they are getting serious about working out but we only have 4 weeks left I’m helping many of them run every morning but it doesn’t look good for some

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      • cepstein93
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        Might be a stupid question but, do they do the test once at the start and then the final one right before graduation? What confuses me is that most people know MONTHS in advance about the time! I know I'm not a great runner but I've gotten down to 16 min 1.5 mile and I'm hoping by the time I graduate in July i'll be at the 15 min mark!

    • Yeah your good! we did one when we got here another mid way and we have the final on the 29th of January if you fail that you retake again a week later if you fail that one you get one last chance 2 days before graduation which is February 19 we had one girl in our session finished the first run in21 minutes she worked her but off and she is down to 15:30 right now so she is gonna make it. I mean how bad do you want your job? And what are you willing to do to get it. The push up is another issue you must to 25 CORRECT push ups

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      • Does anyone knows the policy on facial hair?

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        • Elgin_87
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          Up to an inch for the officers none for the agents. I believe that is the policy. Must be neat too.. Blacpearl1978

      • Thx Elgin_87

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        • When in the academy at what point do they do the physical fitness test with the 1.5 Mile run etc... how many chances do you have to do it and what are the standards?

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          • I don't feel bad for anyone who can't pass the physical test, it's all on you. The hiring process is long, you have more than enough time to get into decent shape before the academy. Also while at the academy you have time to workout, you are there to study and workout. How you use your time is up to you. Finally, the test isn't difficult, anyone of any age or sex can pass.

            220 yard sprint in 45 seconds.
            Sit and Reach assessment of 12.5 inches.
            24 push-ups in 1 minute.
            1.5 mile run in 15 minutes.

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            • N.N.
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              Additionally, the sit and reach test was recently discontinued.

          • How does the GS pay scale work? I know you begin at what ever you qualify for GS5-9 and so on.
            but what do the steps mean? for example whats is a GS 5 step 3?
            and when do you move up to the next grade? like from GS 5 - GS 6?
            I am confused.
            ***Also for any current offers, when you move from one federal agency to the other, do they match your last salary? or put you in the equivalent pay level?

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            • mobyfish
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              The way it works is like this. Depending on where you start, GS5/7/9 you will get promoted every year automatically until you reach GS12. Once you reach GS-12 , then the STEPS come into play. Steps 1-3 is one year between each.

              For example. If you start as GS-7, six years from your first day of employment, you will reach GS12- Step 3. Three years to get from GS7-12 and another three from Step 1 to Step 3. Steps 4-6 is two years between each, so it'll take another six years to reach GS12 step 6.

              Also they skip a grade each time until 12, so progression is {GS-5] - [GS-7] - [GS-9] - [GS-11] - [GS-12].

            • ABP8S
              ABP8S commented
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              mobyfish thanks for that clarification

          • SI Tomorrow.. Im excited!!!

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            • Evolution81
              Evolution81 commented
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              you have a longgggg path left to go....dont get ahead of yourself

            • douglasgene1
              douglasgene1 commented
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              yes its a long path, however they can be excited hahah

            • mudboned
              mudboned commented
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              We're excited for you!

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