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  • Update: Due to the shutdown, my poly has been moved FORWARD. Weird, I know. But I’m not complaining. Jan 17th.

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    • logan94
      logan94 commented
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      Thanks! I’m 18-4 at 50%. I’ve heard nothing from my BI, but I believe that happens after the poly. They are contractors.

    • Elgin_87
      Elgin_87 commented
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      logan94 So, Im hoping I here news soon as well. I had my SI back in may 2018 Haven't heard a peep since.

    • JB411
      JB411 commented
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      Did they call you or email or both? Im so paranoid that I may miss it

    • logan94
      logan94 commented
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      JB411 They called and then emailed once we spoke on the phone to confirm. I missed both and they left a voicemail.

  • Does anyone know if TSU is furloughed during this time? I know people have gotten their final offer e-mails but was thinking maybe those are sent out automatically.

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    • N.N.
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      I don't think anyone really knows to what extent the shutdown is effecting the Hiring Process. I had one Recruiter tell me everything is basically 100% halted until funding is enacted. Another told me that just MHC is closed, but other appointments/steps are continuing. Some people have gotten things scheduled, others have had things cancelled. Some people have been told EODs are still happening, others have been told they're delayed. It's really all over the map. That's kind of the Hiring Process is general though (not just during the shutdown). You talk to two different "officials" and get two completely different, often contradictory, answers.

    • merlin436
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      N.N.

      That's CBP as a whole, where even the best answers are only 95% right...90% of the time...in 85% of circumstances.

      As far as OFO recruiters go, unless things have changed recently, virtually all OFO "recruiters" are part-timers with little/no formal training in recruiting. At least with those working the field that the average person is likely to meet at any local outreach event. The national/regional guys accessible by email might be different.

      At best, you're probably seeing well-meaning people with different backgrounds and experiences answering questions based on the odd agency issued handbook and gut instinct.
      Last edited by merlin436; 01-08-2019, 06:59 PM.

    • N.N.
      N.N. commented
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      merlin436 haha yes. It is unfortunate that recruiting/hiring has been such a focus point in recent years, but the recruiting network is seemingly still provided with little to no resources to actually be of any assistance to applicants beyond saying “call the hiring center.” The Hiring Center is a different case all together though, that’s a staff that’s supposedly solely dedicated to the hiring process, although it seems a pretty regular occurrence where they don’t know the answer to certain questions, or just provide generic copy/paste responses that don’t contain any actual information. Probably the biggest inconsistency I’ve experienced is with answers surrounding polygraph scheduling. Some “officials” have said you absolutely cannot be scheduled until after your medical clears, others have said you can. Some have said the average wait is 8-12 weeks, other have said it’s upwards of 6 months or longer. In my case, I’ve been waiting over 7 months. All the recruiters I’ve talked to have said that seems abnormal and have tried reaching out on my behalf, but can’t get any kind of specific update. When you ask the Hiring Center, they say they don’t deal with the polygraph and don’t know anything about it and you need to reach out to CAD in OPR for info. Well then you try emailing/calling CAD and you can’t get even a single response. It’s literally as if nobody knows what’s going on, or how to find out. Meanwhile it seems like some of us have just been lost in the shuffle and are up the creek without a paddle...
      Last edited by N.N.; 01-08-2019, 07:35 PM.

    • Far16
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      Well idk if it’s automatic message or what. But I received my final letter on the 8th of January. Today Thursday I received about 2 calls from about my EOD.

  • Longtime lurker and thought I'd start posting in here. Passed my SI the end of November, waived my PT because I did a military PT test within the last year. Did my medical and the doc said I passed the week before Christmas.

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    • Some of you had called it, My Poly for tomorrow has been cancelled due to the shutdown. I guess my examiner had more faith in the government than the most of us and thought it would've reopened by tomorrow. poor guy has a long career ahead of him if he thought it was going to reopen under a week

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      • N.N.
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        Dang, sorry to hear brother, that’s a major bummer. Seems weird that they would continue scheduling just based on “hope” that the govt. would be re-open in time.

      • Klumper23
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        Did they contact you to let you know that your poly was cancelled? Mine was scheduled for 1/8/19 and i showed up and was told it will be rescheduled after the shutdown.

      • RJ_Jersey
        RJ_Jersey commented
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        Klumper23 They told me a few days before my exam date that it was cancelled. They will reschedule after the shutdown. I expect that the shutdown will last until February;

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      • DP23
        DP23 commented
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        Message about cancelled poly was immediately recalled whatever that means

      • N.N.
        N.N. commented
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        Well at least your poly isn't until the end of the month, there's still a chance they can get the Govt. re-opened by then. Although it seems neither side is wanting to budge at the moment...

      • DP23
        DP23 commented
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        N.N. Yeah that's a good thing, we'll see soon what happens

    • Hello Everyone,

      Quick questions: With a full year experience as NYC Correction Officer, are you qualified for GS 9 position?
      if yes, do you have to provide documentations for prove of eligibility when applying or you bring them afterwards?

      Thank you all!

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      • Elgin_87
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        Good Question. I am a BOP Correctional Officer and I qualified for the GS9 spot simply because I am currently a GS7 officer. IDK about other DOC agencies though. Even though I'm sure you have the same work experience that I have. If I was you I would apply to both the GS5 and the GS9 spot. That away you'll be covered on both ends. B_N

      • douglasgene1
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        i believe so but not sure, break it down on the resume and the answers on for the questions on the applications

        this is what i put down in the corrections, I was given the GS9 for being Military Police

        Enforced Rules and Keep Order: Inside the jail, enforce rules and regulations. Maintained security by settling disputes between inmates, preventing disturbances, assaults, and escapes. Enforce regulations through effective communication and the use of progressive sanctions, which involve punishments, such as loss of privileges. Supervised the daily activities of inmates, ensuring that inmates obey the rules. They must also ensure the whereabouts of all inmates at all times. Escort prisoners between the institution and courtrooms, medical facilities, and other destinations. Searched inmates and their living quarters for contraband, such as weapons and drugs. In addition, responsible for screening visitors and incoming mail to ensure contraband is not brought into the prison or jail. Inspected Facilities to Ensure That They Meet Standards. Checked cells and other areas for unsanitary conditions, contraband, signs of a security breach such as tampering with window bars and doors, and any other evidence of violations of the rules. Reported any inmate who violates the rules. If a crime is committed within their institution or an inmate escapes, helped law enforcement authorities investigate and search for the escapee. Responsible for writing reports and filling out daily logs detailing inmate behavior and anything else of note that occurred during their shift..

      • merlin436
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        You qualify as a GS-09 if you can meet the standards below and sufficiently write up your qualifications to convince the folks in hiring that you do, in fact, meet the minimal qualifications.

        Qualifications

        The qualification requirements listed below must be met by the closing date of this announcement.

        You qualify for the GS-9 grade level (starting salary $50,598 up to $95,598 with potential overtime) if your supporting documentation shows you possess one of the following:

        Experience: A minimum of 1 year of specialized full-time work experience that demonstrates the ability to make rapid, accurate judgments and decisions with respect to the application of the regulations, instructions, and procedures for importing and exporting merchandise to and from the United States, or enforcement and administration of laws relating to the right of persons to enter, reside in, or depart from the United States; OR

        Education Substitution: Two full years of graduate level education (equivalent to 36 semester credits or 54 quarter credits) in a field of study related to law enforcement (e.g., criminology, criminal justice, law enforcement, courts and judicial systems, corrections and rehabilitation, justice studies, homeland security, forensic technology and forensic psychology) at an accredited college or university; OR

        Will complete two full years of graduate-level education (equivalent to 36 semester or 54 quarter credits) within 9 months from the closing date of this announcement in a field of study related to law enforcement (e.g., criminal justice, homeland security, justice studies, law enforcement, courts and judicial systems, forensic technology, forensic psychology or corrections and rehabilitation) from an accredited college or university and will upload all official or unofficial transcripts before the closing date of this announcement; OR

        Combination of Experience and Education: A combination of graduate level education completed in a field of study related to law enforcement (e.g., criminology, criminal justice, law enforcement, courts and judicial systems, corrections and rehabilitation, justice studies, homeland security, forensic technology and forensic psychology) at an accredited college or university AND specialized work experience. This will be calculated using your resume and official or unofficial transcripts submitted with your application.

      • Hal29
        Hal29 commented
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        So There is a good chance I could qualify as well. I have two years experience as juvenile correctional officer with the state of texas, 60 credits in criminal justice and 5 years experience with inport and exported goods.

        Does it cancel out current process for gs7? I'm almost complete.

    • Originally posted by B_N View Post
      Hello Everyone,

      Quick questions: With a full year experience as NYC Correction Officer, are you qualified for GS 9 position?
      if yes, do you have to provide documentations for prove of eligibility when applying or you bring them afterwards?

      Thank you all!
      Unfortunately DOC is not classified as a sworn police officer position. Last time someone asked they was told no because as a correction officer you are classified as a peace officer.
      Go Hard or Go Home.

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      • So I got this email on January 4th, 2019... I hope all these gets back to normal soon....

        "Due to the government shutdown and furloughs, we need to reschedule your polygraph examination. The government will contact you to reschedule your exam. We apologize for any inconvenience that this change may cause.

        Please acknowledge receipt of this message.

        Thanks for your quick response."

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        • N.N.
          N.N. commented
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          It almost seems like the poly examiners just found out this week they’re not supposed to be working during the shutdown. For the first several weeks, people were still getting scheduled left and right, I believe a few people even took the poly during the shutdown. Now it looks like it’s all coming to a complete halt. Smh...

        • fsi1212
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          N.N. there were actually a handful of agencies that were funded for a little bit longer but then entered the shutdown.

      • Any 18-4dh / 18-7vra update? Approaching one year since applied back in February. I called opm my background was completed October 19th.
        Customs Border Protection
        18-4 GS9 DH 18-7 GS9 VRA
        TSL 2/23/18
        Equip 3/15/18
        Medical 3/17/18
        PFT1 3/27/18
        SI 3/30/18
        Poly 6/15/18
        BI interview 8/7/18
        Drug/EOD???

        LA Sheriff's Deputy (out of state applicant)
        Written/VPAT 9/26/18
        Interview 9/27/18
        BI/ Live Scan 9/28/18
        Poly 9/29/18
        Ride along(norwalk)/ MCJ 11/??/18
        .08 case disposition added to file 2/9/19
        in house bi visit 2/19/2018

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        • RJ_Jersey
          RJ_Jersey commented
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          did you complete your poly already?

        • eurb
          eurb commented
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          RJ_Jersey yes I passed poly 6/15/2018. Called ppm and they said my background was completed 10/19/2018

        • raudy06
          raudy06 commented
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          eurb whats PPM where can i call them?

        • eurb
          eurb commented
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          RJ_Jersey I meant OPM. You can call and ask about the status of your background. (724) 794-5612

      • It feels good to know my medical cleared... SI still scheduled for the 17th.

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        • JStyleszx
          JStyleszx commented
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          Whats your announcement #?

        • Briscora
          Briscora commented
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          19-2... My medical was scheduled on 12/26

      • Does your background investigation not start until you passed your Poly? I haven't done my poly yet but is there a chance my investigation is done due to it being like a year haha

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        • N.N.
          N.N. commented
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          Have you met with your Background Investigator yet? It’s not possible for your background to be completed until that happens, and they meet/speak with your references. As is the case with almost every part of the hiring process, there’s a lot of conflicting info about their about order of steps, etc. for the most part, they say your background investigation will not start until after you pass the poly. BI’s are expensive and they obviously wouldn’t want to waste time/money if somebody fails the poly anyways. Although I’ve been told by some recruiters that it can start before the poly in some cases so who really knows lol.

        • Hal29
          Hal29 commented
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          Poly is part of the background process. But the actually starts once you pass poly. Meeting with the investigator is the field portion. Once they submit your background it goes to opm. They go through and complete the background and give final adjudication.

      • Investigator called me today I have my subject interview next week and my background is supposed to be wrapped up by Thursday next week...The light at the end of the tunnel is finally visible..LOL
        Last edited by Evolution81; 01-12-2019, 07:27 PM.

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        • Elgin_87
          Elgin_87 commented
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          18-3 12-2017 I Still haven't heard from a BI, I just need BI,UA, and Poly and I'm done. I haven't heard anything since May 2018. I emailed my case manger/app manager and they assured me that everything moving on track. So IDK.. The waiting game sucks. Evolution81

        • raudy06
          raudy06 commented
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          That is good, but then you move into the adjudication wait -_-. It really depends on how lengthy your background is but i see the average being 2-3 months at least. I'm going into month 2 waiting for adjudication next week.

        • Evolution81
          Evolution81 commented
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          People who adjudicate your bi are furlouged...bi told me it's like regular HR type people that do it...I've been in this game 13 years with the feds I'm used to waiting

        • raudy06
          raudy06 commented
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          Evolution81 yeah man i have come to learn that . lol good luck man.

      • New here!!

        Just sharing my process so far...

        CBP VRA GS5

        Sept 11 - application submission
        Sept 12 - entrance exam schedule for 17th
        Sept 18 - exam result (pass)
        Sept 21 - tentatively eligible/ referred
        Sept 21 - tentative offer (accepted)
        Oct 2 - applicant ID for online access
        Oct 2 - SI scheduled for 30th
        Oct 3 - BI packet / eqip started
        Oct 9 - medical completed (passed)
        Oct 10 - physical completed (passed)
        Oct 12 - notice of release to OPR
        Oct 15 - e-Qip rejection (errors found)
        Oct 18 - notice of release to OPR
        Oct 30 - structured interview
        Oct 31 - Interview passed (email)

        Poli - pending
        Bi - pending
        DT - pending

        hopefully I get to do my poli soon and get things moving again. Almost 3 months since my SI.

        Anyone in Florida going through the process?











        Last edited by ABP8S; 01-13-2019, 07:36 PM.

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        • douglasgene1
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          I see you are VRA what was youre job? Depending on how you word the resume you should be able to get GS7

        • V_AntCBP
          V_AntCBP commented
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          ABP8S , VRAs qualify for GS7 or GS9, you gotta look into that bro, reapply if need to, thats a year or 2 different on salary... I'm in Tampa, FL , been waiting for poly 5 months...
          Last edited by V_AntCBP; 01-14-2019, 11:25 AM.

        • ABP8S
          ABP8S commented
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          V_AntCBP thanks. I just applied for that gs7, I don’t why I didn’t lol. But yeah you right I did qualify for gs7 because of my bachelors as well. Thanks again for the info.

        • LMC
          LMC commented
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          what's up guys. Were you guys able to land Florida locations?

      • Does anyone know if someone who already has an EOD and FLETC start date will have their EOD pushed back due to the shutdown? Has anyone here not been able to go to their primary port on their already scheduled EOD due to the shutdown?

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        • dk84
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          I heard EOD and FLETC is on track and nothing has pushed back on those subjects.

        • KevinMO91
          KevinMO91 commented
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          Greencomms I have a friend who is EODing next monday he said its on track and will start pre-academy next week. So none of the EODS should be effected. I'm stuck waiting until May for my EOD, Im hoping the time passes fast.....

      • Assuming that all Background and OPM personnel are furlonged. Poly passed from previous application (8/8/2018) and was confirmed via my Case Manager. E-QIP released to OPM back in October but my guess is the government shutdown stopped all the processing.

        Is this what everyone else is experiencing?
        CBPO 17-11
        Application Close Dates: 9/30/2017
        Examination: 10/4/2017
        Notice of Result: 10/5/2017 – Passed
        Notice of Pre-Employment 10/25/2017
        e-QIP Submitted: 11/07/2018
        Medical Exam: 11/8/2018
        Fitness Exam: 11/8/2017 – Passed
        e-QIP Released to OPR: 1/11/2018
        Structured Interview: 2/22/2018
        Structured Interview Passed: 02/23/2018
        Additional Medical Submitted: 05/11/2018
        Polygraph: 07/12/2018 - Verbal Pass
        Background Investigation: In Process
        Drug Test: Scheduling in Progress
        Final Offer: Pending

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        • Elgin_87
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          I was reading your progress. I was about to ask you about your poly and how did you get your test so "fast", but after reading your question I guessed you carried it over. I am a little confused about your dates though. How did you get a verbal pass before you previous test?

          Poly passed from previous application (8/8/2018)
          Polygraph: 07/12/2018 - Verbal Pass
          Last edited by Elgin_87; 01-14-2019, 08:36 PM.

        • category631
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          Elgin_87 so I took 1st Poly 7/12/2018 and was given a verbal pass via the examiner. About a week later they told me they wanted to collect more information so I went in for Round 2 about a month later. After the 2nd round they confirmed the pass again. Didn't hear anything after that and then an email to my Case worker emailed me back confirming the Pass.

        • Elgin_87
          Elgin_87 commented
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          category631 awesome. Sucks you have to go in for a round "2", but none the less awesome.

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