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  • I was in there for 5 1/2. Repetitive. Ive been in the process almost 14 months now. Getting a little frustrated. I won't lie.

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    • raptor170
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      Hal29. My first Poly with CBP (2015) was almost 7 hours in total. What part of the process are you hung up on now? Also, are you DH or VRA? GS-5-7-9?

    • micdrop451
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      Hal29 No word on the BI? I'm still waiting on mine to flip green. Haven't met with my BI for a second round. I don't know if that means there were no discrepancies that needed to be discussed as I noticed most 2nd meetings with applicants leads to a NOPA. Only time will tell.

    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      Raptor. Background and waiting on drug test. I met my investigator on September 4th and he submitted my file on September 5th. Just waiting for it to turn green. That and just drug test. I'm dh gs7.

  • Hi all. I was also never contacted by BI and shows in CASS as pending but I already got the call. I
    applied 17-10. I was looking for other CBPO with a
    similar EOD and FLETC date. I am
    EOD @JFK 5/1 for CBP and @FLETC 5/15-9/20. I’m nervous Since I was told they don’t contact you about
    more FLETC info until right before and I am
    palnnong on moving my five kids and hubby to the area for the summer. I need to request off campus housing and fee completely lost lol.

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    • mobyfish
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      At my current rate, we may end up with the same EOD and FLETC..

    • Hal29
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      They are already into may? Damn.

    • douglasgene1
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      I was reading the academy rules. You cant get off campus housing for the academy. you have to stay in the dorm. Youre family can move there but they have hours you have to be in bed and stuff

    • raudy06
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      damn, May EOD, at this rate im gonna be in by the fall next year. Waiting on BI and drug test. hopefully JFK too.

  • Question? How do they determing if you get provisional clearance? I contacted my case manager to see what was going on. They said opr determined that I would not be granted provisional clearance and I have to wait for a full suitability clearance and that MHC doesn't know fill criteria for provisional. Does anyone know the criteria or reason? I'm 14 months in and doesn't seem like eod will be until late next year seeing they are already in may.

    they determined that after poly.

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    • kli0211
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      Hey Hal29 still can’t believe you haven’t heard anything yet. I feel like they’re just pulling names out of a hat at this point haha. I think I’m just becoming impatient. When I met with my background investigator he said that he regularly interviews people at FLETC who are at training and whose background investigations haven’t been cleared yet. I’m not sure how they are deciding provisional clearance when it’s so inconsistent... I’m also prior military with a current clearance so not sure what the hold up is.
      Last edited by kli0211; 10-23-2018, 04:33 PM.

    • merlin436
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      Agency need.

      Like just about everything else in the hiring process, provisional clearances are designed to benefit the agency under limited circumstances.

    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      d2ep, did they notify you of your bi clearing or did it just change on cass?

    • AlexTejada23
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      I was granted provisional clearance then given my EOD for 18-8 Dulles, VA. Leaving in February. I just met with my BI about a few days ago in email and yesterday in person. They are finishing up the investigation with my work and personal reference checks. Neighborhood is also getting done, but that is all that is left per the investigator.

  • They gave me dates in April but I couldn’t go then and they were very accommodating and pushed me
    off to May.

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    • raptor170
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      rachrose77 thats good to hear. Did they offer you a lot of locations? Also are you DH or VRA?

  • The lady said this “we will first list agency critical locations” she went on to offer me some Arizona ports, calico,CA, key west Florida. I believe she would have kept going. But I said no to everything and she said “well I see you live in New York, is there a location that you are interested in.?” I told her that I would really like JFK and she said she could definitely do that for me. My announcement was location negotiable, and the cities listed weren’t all offered. I never applied to any JFK announcements.

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    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      Did you apply to a regular announcement or direct hire?

    • D.Brown
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      border patrol or Protection Officer? Key west airport?

  • Not VRA. I was a teacher and mommy for 15 years. Guess they need females .

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    • raptor170
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      Thats awesome! Im VRA GS 9, debating on doing the provisional clearance so I can EoD sooner! I hope I get a choice at a good location.

  • I'm assuming this "provisional clearance" shortens things up quite a bit. The only catch....if something is discovered in your background on week 10 at the academy....you are then out of a job. Is that correct?

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    • merlin436
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      If you currently have a decent job or you think you might have skeletons in your closet from the past. it's probably best to wait for a completed background. If you have an easily replaceable job and/or you are convinced that you have a squeaky clean past that will unquestionably pass background review...maybe the provisional clearance is for you.

    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      I know I don't have any skeletons in my closet. I would say my job is pretty miserable....lol. I don't care about the provisional so much. More about why I wouldn't meet the requirements. I'm direct hire so I would think that would be critical need since they hurting for Swb. Anyways I just want the process to be over already.

    • merlin436
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      Direct hire announcements, like provisional clearances, are mostly about benefiting the agency...not the applicant. "Critical need" means whatever. MHC will define it as it relates to their needs, CBP HQ will view it as it relates to CBP needs, Field Offices will further break it down to the regional impact and individual ports have their take on it as well. Often, the needs of MHC and the needs of individual ports clash. Many ports prefer to run short-staffed as being short-staffed pretty much guaranteed generous overtime funding.

      Often, it's not about the applicant, it's about the bureaucracy. The cracks within CBP are wide...and lots of people fall through them.

    • douglasgene1
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      depending on what it is, Like if its something the Department can live with they may give you a condition and make you be a snitch for IA (internal affairs). I only say that because when i worked for County we had a female have to do that.

  • Good luck to those who still in the process. Just want to know who going to FLETC in February??

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    • Far16
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      That’s nice know I guess we will see each other FLETC. I just got 3 more months before my EOD in January

    • Dave92592
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      I'll be going to FLETC from 14 Feb -20 Jun. with you and JMontero, I assume.

    • Far16
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      Dave92592 that’s right see you there

    • SteenBean
      SteenBean commented
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      I know this post is older now, but I am heading to FLETC early Feb as well.

  • Originally posted by rachrose77 View Post
    Hi all. I was also never contacted by BI and shows in CASS as pending but I already got the call. I
    applied 17-10. I was looking for other CBPO with a
    similar EOD and FLETC date. I am
    EOD @JFK 5/1 for CBP and @FLETC 5/15-9/20. I’m nervous Since I was told they don’t contact you about
    more FLETC info until right before and I am
    palnnong on moving my five kids and hubby to the area for the summer. I need to request off campus housing and fee completely lost lol.
    Congrats!! Also 17-10 here, passed poly about a month ago, hopefully will catch the same train lol

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    • Alexr3496
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      N.N. that's true man.. well in I think July or August I applied for VRA... I recommend you do something similar (have two applications )

  • Anyone see any progress lately? This week marks 100 days since sending in additional medical info for me. I've been lied to several times by med review at this point, but still received clearance, and they supposedly still haven't even looked at my paperwork. So frustrating...
    Last edited by N.N.; 10-24-2018, 12:48 PM.

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    • Hal29
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      You know I was thinking about applying to another announcement as well. I'm also calling MHC to make sure my file was not lost because that is very concerning. But I may apply for another announcement upon what they say. My only set back is, one being to have to retake the writing test and two waiting to 3 months for everything to transfer over.

    • goknights
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      Hal29 let us know what MHC tells you about your application. I would give them a call myself but I’m not sure which number to call. I’ve also considered reapplying. I just can’t help but think it may delay my progress further since I would need to retake the fittness and written exam. It kinda seems like it’s a gamble. I’ve seen it help people out but I’ve also seen it make thins more difficult.

    • Alexr3496
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      For me, everything transferred over In like 1 month.

    • Hou33guy
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      Im still waiting for my additional onfo to clear sent in sept 17th, but opm been calling me a month private number, just now answered today to get my background investigation started

  • Vet2fed and alextejada whay announcement are you guys?

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  • Any one from 18-8 here still waiting for Poly? I am at 50%

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    • N.N.
      N.N. commented
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      V_AntCBP lol do NOT say that to them, they'll throw you into the abyss of medical delay with a 6+ month delay like they did me lol.

    • NoSlack898
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      18-8 VRA at 50% waiting on Poly. Background in progress.

    • DP23
      DP23 commented
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      18-8 DH also waiting on poly. Just read from a retired BP Agent that from Thanksgiving to New Years the government will more than likely be at a complete standstill for the holidays. Reason being everybody is using sick days/PTO etc so they won't lose them.

    • Mike924
      Mike924 commented
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      18-7 here. Been at 50% since mid August...still no call for poly

  • So I called MHC and that was a waste of time. Got no information or explanation from them. I told them I've heard of applicants files getting lost and they say It is possible but they wouldn't know. I asked who I could contact and they said no one. Once opm has it no one knows anything. 14 months in and no one knows anything. Maybe I'll just apply to a regular announcement and go for JFK. Seems the only place they are given eod's. So much for Swb being in critical need.

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    • Alexr3496
      Alexr3496 commented
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      Hey man, sorry about that, at least you can go somewhere nicer fix up your resume ( assuming you got selected for GS5) and you can potentially be accepted for GS7.

    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      Just can't believe we can't get answers or clarity. Oh I was kidding about JFK. No offense to anyone but I would never go to new York. I'm from the Boston area and couldn't do it. I moved to Texas 7 years ago. I'm already qualified for gs7. Im just going to wait it out as everything is complete except drug and background. Already met investigator a couple months back and my file had already been submitted.

    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      Just talked to one of my recruiters and he went around asking on my behalf. He was told that my case is not uncommon. Especially since I was not given provisional I would have to wait until bi is complete. Which is fine. But really how long does the bi need to take? I mean my investigator worked on my file for several months. I believe he said all together like 4 months. So noe opm will spend another 4 months at least? Kind of sucks seeing a lot of new applicants are going right through in no time at all. Kind of b.s. he said it is a "hurry up and wait" but that I'm still being considered.

    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      Apparently according to a recruiter. Someone fresh out of college, no experience is more qualified than someone who served in the military or has gain experience no joke. Then went on to say no completed the process I 6 months. Fastest has been 10 months. And is usually 12 months to 2 and a half years for process. I was ****ed excuse my language. And only those near completion get provisional. If not granted it means they may need additional . Have not been contacted for additional information. So if they need to they need to hurry up. Because I will not wait 2-2 1/2 years. I turned police departments for this. Here is the email.


      How it works is all dependent on your background. If it is close to being complete, then you will be qualified for provisional clearance. If the review board have additional questions that require a more in-depth investigation, then you will not be granted the clearance. This is what they have told me. I haven’t seen anyone complete their assessment in 6 months. On average an application for someone applying under the VRA will complete their assessment in 10 months up to a year. For a civilian it could be as long as a year to a year and a half. My application took 2 and a half years. It is different for everyone. The unfortunate thing is that a person in collage with no experience will complete his assessment faster than a person in the military. This is because of the fact that they didn’t do anything there background is smaller and easer to complete. Sorry for the delay and I hope you will get notified about the job soon.

  • Hal29 wow that is completely insane. The incompetency and inconsistently surrounding this agency's hiring process is getting completely out of control. There seems to be no system or organization, no oversight, and no accountability. I think it's almost getting to the point where we may need to start reaching out to our congressional representatives demanding change.
    Last edited by N.N.; 10-26-2018, 06:09 AM.

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    • Hal29
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      My question is how do they determine I did not meet the criteria for provisional and determined this after my poly. I passed. I don't really care about the provisional, it is the the fact behind it. I just want it to be done already. And with nothing significant on my background I would rather start sooner than later. So I can get on with my life. I'm sitting here waiting because I'm going to be selling my house. I want out of my job. One it is awful and two now that the investigator came here and talked to all head people. My job has become very acquired as has been two months and they know I'm trying to leave.

    • Nycguy718
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      You continue to bash CBP over every single thing but yet continue to be in the “process”. Every day. You either apply for a new posting or apply to another agency.

    • micdrop451
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      Nycguy718 Don't call him out on his toxicity. He'll get you banned like he did to Evolution81

  • Hey guys! I applied for VRA 18-13 on 9/18/2018. Referred for GS-7.

    Finished medical exam yesterday (10/24/2018), finished (revised multiple times lol) E-QIP was submitted about a week ago, and background investigation is in the works. Structured interview is scheduled for mid-November. Currently at 13% on the tracker/app.

    I currently live in Chicago and I saw that Chicago was one of the needed locations. That was one of the main reasons why I applied. However, I would love to get Seattle if possible. Has anyone heard anything about these ports and pros/cons?

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    • Hal29
      Hal29 commented
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      Im 17-11 at 63%

    • raptor170
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      1RidgeRunner7 yes thats how I got to do SI and Poly on same day. I made the extra 4 hour trip opposed to going to DC which is 2 hours away just so I could do both.

    • 1RidgeRunner7
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      All in one day, got it. I saw that a few days ago. Locations with an (*). I wished I would of done that. Thought about it after the fact.

    • mudboned
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      The rent is pretty rough in Chicago, but my brother lives in Seattle and from what I've seen, it's so much worse lol. Seattle appeals to me mainly because of the change of scenery and climate. I'm glad ORD isn't too bad to work at!

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