CBP officer

[Driven2slow]

So this is where Im at now:

9/16/17 - Applied 17-11 SanFran
9/26/17 - Exam
10/05/17 - NOR Exam - Pass
10/25/17 - Tentative Selection Letter
11/02/17 - Eqip Submitted
11/03/17 - Eqip sent to OPR
11/07/17 - Medical Exam
11/14/17 - PFT1 Pass on App
11/15/17 - SI
11/16/17 - NOR SI - Pass
POLY - ?
Drug test - ?
EOD - ?

[Driven2slow]

I'm really worried about my credit report. I was in a bad business partnership and I got screwed over which affected my credit score. Collections and debt.

I forgot about attaching the two forms also and I emailed the hiring officer, he allowed be access to eqip and I attached them.

[3nf0rc3r]

Driven2slow my credit sucks, and I had no problem; they're just looking for collections etc also to verify employment stuff

[Elgin_87]

I just finished my E-Qip. I digitally signed everything. I don't have to print anything out do I. If so I don't see where I have to.

[GNg]

Steph631_ It was the two forms that you attached manually and sent along with the Eqip. The provisional clearance form and one another which I don't remember since they haven't release it back to me.

[Smiley85]

Are interviews from last year still good?

I passed the interview last year but didn't pass the polygraph. Next year makes 2 years so I'm interested in applying again. I remember reading that the interview was good for 3 years but I know they changed it up a bit since I last took it by removing the VBT.

[county25]

NOR says results are good for up to 36 months unless the format or competencies being evaluated is changed. So, unless they consider the competencies in the old format the same as the new format, then you would have to take it again. I wouldn't sweat the SI, though.

[Driven2slow]

Are interviews from last year still good?

I passed the interview last year but didn't pass the polygraph. Next year makes 2 years so I'm interested in applying again. I remember reading that the interview was good for 3 years but I know they changed it up a bit since I last took it by removing the VBT.

NOR email said its valid for 36 months from date of interview.

[Steph631_]

Does anyone known how long the medical and PFT1 are valid for ?

[county25]

CBP never gave me "NOR" related emails on the PFT1 or Medical...they just went to green completed checkmarks within a few days of completing them (my experience anyway).

CBP's website says: A PFT-1 Pass result is valid for one year, or as long as a candidate's selection for the position remains active.  If a candidate receives a PFT-1 Fail result, the candidate can reapply and be afforded another opportunity to complete the PFT-1 upon selection.

I can't find any relevant information regarding how long medical results are valid for, but I would guess it is similar to the PFT1 result.

[toonguy15]

I have a question for you guys. When applying for CBPO 17-11, I originally selected San Francisco for location. I just looked at my NOR and for location it just says Location Negotiable After Selection. Anybody from 17-11 lists their location of choice?

Well for me I passed my SI, now I'm just waiting on my polygraph

[Pmgrad08]

Where is everyone in the process now? I started this journey in June; my medical is currently pending.

[AMTK23]

9/7/2017:17-11 announcement application submitted
9/21/2017: Entrance Examination
10/20/2017: NOR on pass results for Entrance Exam
10/25/2017: Tenative Selection for Pre-Employment
10/25/2017: E-QIP
11/04/2017: Submitted E-QIP
11/09/2017: Medical Examination (awaiting results)
11/13/2017: Physical Test (passed)
11/22/2017: NOR for E-QIP being sent to OPR
12/01/2017: NOR for SI interview
12/13/2017: SI Interview
Drug Test: pending
Polygraph: pending
Background: In Progress
EOD:

[Elgin_87]

So I applied to the 18-1 and it states that I don't have to do a 2nd PFT.. All I have to do is the 1st PFT? What does that consist of? The same thing website says or anything different?

[Jarymoly]

Elgin_87 PFT2 its not required anymore.

[Elgin_87]

Thanks Jarymoly

[mclanton00]

Considering how many steps, how much money they invest in you... for the people who dont pass the PT test, or fail something else...im surprised they dont recycle you and try to push you through with another class. I wonder how much money they spend on every applicant from start to the academy.
On another note, how are injuries handled at the academy? so they just sent you home...

[Pmgrad08]

Did you have any issues with your medical? What Port will you be at?

[Capt_Falco]

Like you said, considering how many steps and time you have to go through in order to get this job, if one doesn’t have enough discipline/ determination to pass the Pt or any other test at FLETC then I don’t think one should keep this leo job. Though I think Pmgrad08 is right and they do just put you in the next class, and I would think it’s the same if you get injured to the extent that you can’t complete any pt. Though injury is different then just straight up failing

[ES90]

In most cases(read there are exceptions) you will be recycled into a following class if you repeatedly fail tests, the FGS or practical exercises. If you are hurt during duty hours and are unable to participate in PT you will be likely recycled when you heal. Until then you sit at your Port. As long as you don't miss 24 hours(IIRC) in your time at FLETC you'll be alright.

[3nf0rc3r]

If I understand the paperwork I've been given correctly, injuries during training are pretty much covered under workman's comp, and I'd guess that they'd recycle you. After spending THAT much money on you, I doubt they'd just send you home.

[Krash777]

My SI on the checklist shows “scheduling in progress”. How long does it usually take to be scheduled?

[Pmgrad08]

A month to a month and a half

[Steph631_]

I just got my email to schedule my "pre-employment exam" is that the medical and PFT-1? Also will they be done the same day, it doesn't specify in the email. and how long was your medical and or PFT-1?

[Pmgrad08]

Medical and PFT 1 are separate appointments separate locations; Medical look 30-45mins with the wait and the same with PFT1 (the actual test is about 15mins)

[Steph631_]

Pmgrad08 thank you, when I took it 3 years ago they did medical and pft-1 same day same place, that’s a lot easier and less time off. But good to know it was quick. I got my appt. time and date today and wanted to know if I wouldn’t be able to make it out by 11:30am. Exam is at 10am.

[county25]

I spent about an hour and a half at the clinic for my medical, but they were in the middle of a renovation and I had a lot of waiting to do. I'm guessing each experience is different and 1 to 2 hours (max) is typical.

[Steph631_]

county25 makes sense thanks so much

[dalie_utcc]

Hi
I have been a member of this forum for about a month and would like to share my timeline with you all.

17-4 for San Luis, AZ - January
Entrance Exam - February
NOR - March
Medical - April
Fitness - April

17-7 for San Francisco - April
Entrance Exam - February
NOR - April
Medical- April
Fitness - April
E-QIP - Submitted - MAy
E-QIP - Rejection fixed - August
SI - Scheduled late September
SI - interviewed/finger prints on October 10th
SI - Passed 3 days later
Poly - Contacted by OPM - mid October
Poly - Tested November 20th
Poly - Passed November 28th
BI - pending
Drug Screen - pending
EOD- pending

I applied in January for 17-4 for San Luis, AZ, but I changed my mind and reapplied for 17-7 SF.

Thanks for reading.

[3nf0rc3r]

Interesting to note where a fellow 17-7 applicant is at. Good luck to you!

[Elgin_87]

Is it at all possible to change your request during the hiring process? I at the E-qip and medical exam on the t 4th, stage. I applied for Grand Portage MN and I would go there, but there is 0 to no houses available to rent or buy.

[dalie_utcc]

Elgin_87 It says on every job announcements that you have to reapply if you want to switch to a new location. I reapplied to 17-7 for SF and everything I have done from 17-4 was carried over to 17-7.

[Elgin_87]

Thanks dalie_utcc

[JeepsterSC]

I am about to apply but have a few questions for those who have already done so. From the point of applying how long did it take to hear something back? Also, I was told I should have applied months ago due to the fact I’m about to complete my bachelors degree but waited to have it in hand. Any help/suggestions would be appreciated!

[Elgin_87]

All the PT info is on the CBP website.

[county25]

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by when do you hear something back. Once you apply you complete some forms and schedule an exam. Once you take the exam, expect there to be 2-6 weeks to get results. From there it takes approximately 6 months or longer to get a final offer of employment.

A couple posts ago- someone posted their timeline. There are many more if you look back in this thread. I tested in early June for posting 17-8. I'm currently waiting on a polygraph, drug test, and for my background investigation to complete before I get a final offer.

Good luck on your process and feel free to ask more questions if you have any.

Edit: Waiting for your bachelor degree to apply might help you get a higher starting pay. There are GS-5/7 announcements and GS-9 announcements. I don't know your background, but a bachelor degree and law enforcement related experience could land you GS-9 starting pay. You should at least get GS-7 with a bachelor degree and 1 year full time work experience. Make sure you follow the OPM guidelines for creating a proper resume when applying for federal jobs.

[Pmgrad08]

I started the process in July and I am currently waiting on my Poly, BI and drug screen to be scheduled...its a 6 months or longer process before you get a job offer. ONCE you get the job offer; You will go to the Port you selected for 2-3 weeks then go to the Academy in GA for for 4 1/2 months then you will RELOCATE to your port and begin working.

[Elgin_87]

Yes, If you pick grand Portage MN as you duty post how hard would it be to switch during the hiring process? Also What is the grooming policy with CBP? I'm in the BOP and we have none. Another question. If you come in as a 9 do you keep your steps and sonority? #CBP

[Pmgrad08]

I have seen on previous threads individuals have switched over during the hiring process and it was a simple transfer...anything you have done in the hiring process this far will transfer over. Don't wait until you get the job offer to transfer chances are you wont get the transfer. I'm not sure what CBP's appearance policy is but would assume tattoos are okay as I noticed a guy had tattoos when I went to take my SI; I DONT KNOW ABOUT PIERCINGS; I'm a female and have a nose ring but I imagine I will have to take it out or wear a clear one. I don't know in regards to steps and sonority

[Elgin_87]

Thank you Pmgrad08 I see all this border town are not very good areas to live in. The ones they are hiring for anyway. The housing market Is horrible.

[merlin436]

Yes, If you pick grand Portage MN as you duty post how hard would it be to switch during the hiring process? Also What is the grooming policy with CBP? I'm in the BOP and we have none. Another question. If you come in as a 9 do you keep your steps and sonority? #CBP

You will probably have to reapply to get a location not GP. Contact MHC and ask them.

If you're talking of a beard, the book answer is an inch or less and "well groomed". Anything reasonable ought to be OK.

If you are currently a 9 and you're hired as a 9 they should match steps. You lose money coming from GL to GS pay though.
Seniority will pretty much restart on your first day in OFO. Your prior time will only matter as a tie-breaker in the event of a tie between you and another hired on the same day.

[county25]

https://www.cbp.gov/careers/frontlin...o/pay-benefits

[merlin436]

That competitive pay chart is about as far away from some sort of average representation as they can get. I'd say the took the most optimistic outlook and passed it off as average, but it might just be beyond that. It reminds me of the gross misrepresentations the Border Patrol union took in presenting average CBPO pay back during their pay reform trials...it's that bad and misrepresentive of the norm.

[county25]

I've always just used the locality pay tables on OPMs website and assume no automatic overtime to get realistic numbers. I'm sure new hires will get overtime but not the numbers they may lead people on to.

[ak56221]

They should match your pay to the best they can. For example let's say you are a GL-9 Step 3 at $54,742 a year now. When you start you should be converted to a GS-9 Step 4 at 54,742. However they should step you back after 52 weeks to GS-11 Step 2 at 62,216; and there after you should be on the same pay increase schedule as everyone else. Transferring from one federal agency to another you should never make any less than you did prior, there are some exceptions for example if you were a GS 12 step 2 making 72k a year moving to a GS-9 position the best they could do is make you a 9-step 10 making 65k a year.

[Lawati]

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[county25]

Two weeks for me.

[Pmgrad08]

NOR's for what? Medical; Fitness SI?

[disman]

I did my PFT-1 again since last time there was a problem with my test and finally passed. The person administering the test told me the girl before me was also trying for the second time and she'd accidentally kicked the step board away. She wasn't able to recover on time and ended up failing the test. It made me curious if that would disqualify a person, since this was her second try, but apparently the physical aspect is the only one you are able to retry.

[Pmgrad08]

Congratulations on passing: )