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Originally posted by bobcatgolthwait View PostMy BI is a woman and met with six of my references before I met with her. Now I have guy calling my house wanting to meet with my roommate. Thought maybe the case got transfered to him, but now another one of my references is supposed to me with the woman tomorrow. Is it normal to have two people on one case?CBPO-LB/LA,CA
Written: 08/08
TO: 09/24/08
FLETC CLASS 923
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Originally posted by Peteylaw06 View PostSorry, I've been gone a week so this is delayed...
In theory it's a good idea...especially for new grads. But there are some people who, after taking a GS-7, will already be taking pay-cuts and still have to support their families, to take a GS-5 at 10,000 less per year (and yes I know you will work overtime to make up for some of it, but for the same reason I would like to limit my overtime as much as possible). I'm not attacking you, it just doesn't make any sense to me why someone who is better qualified at a GS-7 would have to wait longer for a position than someone with less experience at a GS-5... But, maybe its just me....
Myself, I can wait... It seems like everyone is doing a lot of that anyway
They will take the GS-5 applicant over the GS-7 if there are no GS-7 spots available, that's the dice you role when going for a 7 spot.
As to over time, you have no choice in that, most of it is mandatory... I have a friend in Orlando that spent almost an entire week at the airport, even sleeping there, because of short staffing working OT... He had NO say on this.... plus the money is good!...
Whenever making a decision on going for FLEO you will have to plan accordingly, specially when you're going for an entry level position...
After you draw your TO there is NO "qualifying" in this, you get your spot when you get it... just the way it is...Last edited by yoda; 11-12-2008, 02:56 PM.CBPO
Written: 08/29/2007
EOD: July 11, 2011
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Interesting. I mean it totally makes sense to only have so many 7 slots, but at the same time I guess it could have made me just go for the 5 slot if I knew it would probably get me hired on faster. To be fair, I'm looking to go to work down at the San Diego border crossings, and there doesn't seem to be any shortage of openings."Officer, you are kinda hot."
"And you are kinda intoxicated."
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Sadly...they only offer a limited number of GS-07 slots. Once they're gone, they're gone.
I suppose if you're already making decent money...holding on for a 7 makes some sense. The folks I like to laugh at are the ''manager types working at Old Navy making 30K a year" who pass over a 5 and a pretty much guaranteed 38-60K+ to wait a year to until a 7 spot finally opens.
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Originally posted by merlin436 View PostSadly...they only offer a limited number of GS-07 slots. Once they're gone, they're gone.
I suppose if you're already making decent money...holding on for a 7 makes some sense. The folks I like to laugh at are the ''manager types working at Old Navy making 30K a year" who pass over a 5 and a pretty much guaranteed 38-60K+ to wait a year to until a 7 spot finally opens."Officer, you are kinda hot."
"And you are kinda intoxicated."
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Originally posted by sap123 View PostUgh. Well it probably made less sense for me as a guy making bread crumbs (and now jobless). Knowing what I know now I would have asked for a 5, but what are you gonna do? Failing forward is all that matters.
I've just seen it far too often, including from more than a few fellow CBPO's. I could never understand why someone would sit for 8 months in a tiny port in ND arguing over going into the BP as a 5 or 7 when they'd be making 10K more as a PA 5 in Arizona than a CBPO 7 in ND.
Many folks tend to get 'tunnel vision' when applying for these jobs. Sometimes it's better to step back and look it over from another angle.
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Originally posted by merlin436 View PostNothing personal, Sap.
I've just seen it far too often, including from more than a few fellow CBPO's. I could never understand why someone would sit for 8 months in a tiny port in ND arguing over going into the BP as a 5 or 7 when they'd be making 10K more as a PA 5 in Arizona than a CBPO 7 in ND.
Many folks tend to get 'tunnel vision' when applying for these jobs. Sometimes it's better to step back and look it over from another angle."Officer, you are kinda hot."
"And you are kinda intoxicated."
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Originally posted by audi0xpl0de View PostI believe in the TO paperwork you have the option of saying you would only accept gs-7, which would mean they would take the gs-5 person next in line.
In that sense, gs levels do not set hiring speeds?"Do you have an appointment?"
-Gupta Rajan
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Originally posted by Orleanian84 View PostI spoke with someone at tsu today and they told me that they call people based on the order their paperwork reached tsu, and that it didn't matter what gs level they qualified for.
In that sense, gs levels do not set hiring speeds?"Officer, you are kinda hot."
"And you are kinda intoxicated."
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Originally posted by sap123 View PostMaybe, but another component is that TSU can only send off applicants to ports when the spots are open. My line of thinking is that the port dictates what it needs and what kind of people it can take on (salary wise). Either way, Merlin is a current CBPO that seems to be on top of this stuff as far as I can tell, so I usually trust his advice or facts on the matter.
The person at tsu told me that the port contacts them when they need people, and they in turn choose the next in line applicant, regarless of their gs grade. I remember that you explained the tsu process really well earlier in the forum, but I don't remember gs level ever being a discriminatory factor when waiting for a call?"Do you have an appointment?"
-Gupta Rajan
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Originally posted by Orleanian84 View PostMerlin, what's your take on this?
The person at tsu told me that the port contacts them when they need people, and they in turn choose the next in line applicant, regarless of their gs grade. I remember that you explained the tsu process really well earlier in the forum, but I don't remember gs level ever being a discriminatory factor when waiting for a call?"Officer, you are kinda hot."
"And you are kinda intoxicated."
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Originally posted by bobcatgolthwait View PostMy BI is a woman and met with six of my references before I met with her. Now I have guy calling my house wanting to meet with my roommate. Thought maybe the case got transfered to him, but now another one of my references is supposed to me with the woman tomorrow. Is it normal to have two people on one case?
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Originally posted by sap123 View PostIt's a long shot, but I'll see what people say when I visit CBPO offices for my VBT tomorrow morning to see what the port's side of the story is. The info could be second hand or inaccurate (I rather hear from TSU), but I'll see what I can dig up.
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Originally posted by Orleanian84 View PostMerlin, what's your take on this?
The person at tsu told me that the port contacts them when they need people, and they in turn choose the next in line applicant, regarless of their gs grade. I remember that you explained the tsu process really well earlier in the forum, but I don't remember gs level ever being a discriminatory factor when waiting for a call?
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