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  • Seriously nobody have any advice on what to pack for FLETC. Maybe I have to wait two years for Fletc but dreaming is free rigth? Thanks for all the help. Allways giving advise and support for all of usvin this long and hard process.

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    • Originally posted by Rms16 View Post
      Thanks for the detailed response. It is very helpful. I did my due diligence when I wrote my response and I feel I responded to everything they stated needed to be addressed. As well as looking into what the guidelines for unsuitability were. I was not going to let a lack of research and a hastily written response ruin my chances of getting what I've worked so hard for.
      I'm asking bc I took my poly in mid feb, got the NOPA around the middle of march and sent in my response a week or so later. I haven't gotten a response back either and I know I probably will never get one. I do call IA sporadically and all I hear is my file is in the third and final review stage with the supervisor, Its been there since mid april. I was comparing my NOPA timeline to yours bc I'm grasping at whatever I can. I know everybody's process is different, I've even stated that myself. You just can't help but compare and hope.
      It's been over 4 months I can only hope I got through the NOPA, but you can never be sure with CBP. You spoke about their timeframe for conducting the process, I don't remember seeing that, do you by off chance remember it? I'm hoping that if it took them till August to call you that possibly by October I could get the call. Ofcourse I know comparing your timeline to mine is just like looking into a magic 8 ball and asking it when I'll get the call, but hey it gives me something to look toward to haha. Thanks again for the response.
      I don't recall the time frame right off hand. Don't quote me, but I believe the total process had to concluded in 30 days. The time frame for conducting everything wasn't included in the NOPA, just a portion (which would primarily be addressed to the applicant's requirements). The whole time frame and process is outlined in one of the CFR's. It was several months after the process was supposed to be completed that I saw any further movement on my BI. I discovered that on CASS! Generally speaking it's a "no news is good news" situation! Keep your fingers crossed!

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      • One week until EOD, any San Ysidro people starting next Monday?

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        • Figured I'd address helping out someone before posting my latest news. PFT2 complete...and I passed!! FLETC here I come!

          There was a total of eight of us and we started at 6:30am! The sun wasn't even up when we met with the supervisor. Six of the folks were BP applicants and only two of us were CBPO. Ironically the other CBPO person lives about four miles from me (and will be a classmate)! From what I was hearing from the others, one BP guy was heading to California and all of the others (including the other CBPO applicant) were headed to south Texas.

          It started out as a pretty stressful experience. I was going to go to bed early last night to get some good sleep. My wife texted me though, asking why I had left my running clothes at home. Eeeeeek!! In my rush to pack yesterday I forgot to pack them. I had to get up and dressed and head out to Wally World. By the time I got back into bed it was almost 11:30pm. So much for a restful night!

          When we got out to the track at FLETC they gave us some time to stretch and warm up. The first thing they did was take our pulse and blood pressure. As I've gotten older my blood pressure has gotten a little higher. It's not bad at all, just creeped up a little. The problem is when I get really nervous it shoots up. Combine that with the increase and it then becomes a problem! I knew I would be a little nervous and it would increase. I just wanted it to stay low enough to test. When I passed that I told them, "one hurdle down!". After that we ran the 220, followed by sit ups and then push ups. Everything was done one at a time so it could be video taped. They demonstrated proper form for everything before anyone started. An instructor also held everyone's feet for the sit ups and did the counting for both sit ups and push ups. After everyone passed all of that, the instructors commented about being impressed that no one had failed or had little difficulty with anything. All that was left was the 1 1/2 mile...my last hurdle! I think the BP folks were a little jealous when told they had 15 minutes and we had 17 1/2! Everyone runs at the same time, you just had to state your last name and lap number as you crossed the line each time. They'd then give you a lap time. Everyone took off at the start, leaving me behind.

          I had already figured out if I could roughly maintain a 2 min 45 sec lap time I'd make it with time left. My first lap was 2:11, which thrilled me. That gave me even more time. After that I maintained about a 2:30 lap time. After about 2 1/2 laps everyone else had lapped me. When they came around on their last lap, I was crossing over on #5 (it was a total of 6 laps). The supervisor thought it was my last lap as I approached and told me she had my final lap time. As I crossed the line and said "lap 5", the other instructors told her I had one more. She said "oops, sorry", but I had a total lap time of 14 something. I just kept giving myself little self motivating goals each lap and then upping them each time. I crossed over at 16 something. I didn't hear what the seconds were because all I needed to hear was 16 ANYTHING(!), and I sprinted down the last straight with everything I had left in me. They told to do a cool down walk and get some more water. Instead I proceeded to barf out the bottle of water that was in me! LOL BTW, everyone in my group passed. Big congrats to them! I'm glad that's over (yeah I know, more awaits!).

          Sorry for the lengthy post. I figured I'd give some details about the PFT2 because I've seen questions previously posted about the process. Keep the faith everyone. If you want it bad enough, you'll get there!
          Last edited by 66Pony; 08-16-2013, 02:45 PM.

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          • Congrats 66Pony! Thanks for that post, it was very informative and helpful. I had been wondering about what order they do things in.
            NOR: 8/1/2012 (95 - no vet)
            TSL1: 8/14/2012
            TSL2: 8/16/2012
            PFT1: 9/17/2012
            Poly: 11/14/2012
            Drug Test: 12/7/2012
            BI: cleared 12/2012
            Quals: GS 7 cleared 5/29/2013
            TSU: 5/29/2013

            "The Call": 8/6/2013
            EOD: 9/16/2013 - Brownsville, TX

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            • For those of you who changed your geographic location with the latest announcement (from the SWB to the CEC). Have you received your NOR yet?

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              • Originally posted by 66Pony View Post
                Figured I'd address helping out someone before posting my latest news. PFT2 complete...and I passed!! FLETC here I come!

                There was a total of eight of us and we started at 6:30am! The sun wasn't even up when we met with the supervisor. Six of the folks were BP applicants and only two of us were CBPO. Ironically the other CBPO person lives about four miles from me (and will be a classmate)! From what I was hearing from the others, one BP guy was heading to California and all of the others (including the other CBPO applicant) were headed to south Texas.

                It started out as a pretty stressful experience. I was going to go to bed early last night to get some good sleep. My wife texted me though, asking why I had left my running clothes at home. Eeeeeek!! In my rush to pack yesterday I forgot to pack them. I had to get up and dressed and head out to Wally World. By the time I got back into bed it was almost 11:30pm. So much for a restful night!

                When we got out to the track at FLETC they gave us some time to stretch and warm up. The first thing they did was take our pulse and blood pressure. As I've gotten older my blood pressure has gotten a little higher. It's not bad at all, just creeped up a little. The problem is when I get really nervous it shoots up. Combine that with the increase and it then becomes a problem! I knew I would be a little nervous and it would increase. I just wanted it to stay low enough to test. When I passed that I told them, "one hurdle down!". After that we ran the 220, followed by sit ups and then push ups. Everything was done one at a time so it could be video taped. They demonstrated proper form for everything before anyone started. An instructor also held everyone's feet for the sit ups and did the counting for both sit ups and push ups. After everyone passed all of that, the instructors commented about being impressed that no one had failed or had little difficulty with anything. All that was left was the 1 1/2 mile...my last hurdle! I think the BP folks were a little jealous when told they had 15 minutes and we had 17 1/2! Everyone runs at the same time, you just had to state your last name and lap number as you crossed the line each time. They'd then give you a lap time. Everyone took off at the start, leaving me behind.

                I had already figured out if I could roughly maintain a 2 min 45 sec lap time I'd make it with time left. My first lap was 2:11, which thrilled me. That gave me even more time. After that I maintained about a 2:30 lap time. After about 2 1/2 laps everyone else had lapped me. When they came around on their last lap, I was crossing over on #5 (it was a total of 6 laps). The supervisor thought it was my last lap as I approached and told me she had my final lap time. As I crossed the line and said "lap 5", the other instructors told her I had one more. She said "oops, sorry", but I had a total lap time of 14 something. I just kept giving myself little self motivating goals each lap and then upping them each time. I crossed over at 16 something. I didn't hear what the seconds were because all I needed to hear was 16 ANYTHING(!), and I sprinted down the last straight with everything I had left in me. They told to do a cool down walk and get some more water. Instead I proceeded to barf out the bottle of water that was in me! LOL BTW, everyone in my group passed. Big congrats to them! I'm glad that's over (yeah I know, more awaits!).

                Sorry for the lengthy post. I figured I'd give some details about the PFT2 because I've seen questions previously posted about the process. Keep the faith everyone. If you want it bad enough, you'll get there!
                Awesome man ... Congrats and see ya at FLETC
                CBPO Exam: 4/29/12
                Geo: Central/East
                NOR: 5/25/12 Score: 82
                TSL:11/1/12
                Med/PFT1: 12/2/12 Cleared
                Qual: Cleared 12/8/12 GS-7
                Poly 1: 1/22/13 Poly 2: 2/27/13 Poly 3: 4/16/13 Poly 4: 5/16/13 FINALLY PASSED
                VBT/SI: 1/27/13 Cleared
                Background: 5/20/13 Cleared
                Met BI: 5/29/13
                TSU: 6/13/13
                Drug Test:6/12/13
                PFT 2:
                EOD: 8/19/13 Newark Airport FLETC: 9/16/13

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                • Anyone EOD at Newark this coming Monday? Gotta say im real excited.
                  CBPO Exam: 4/29/12
                  Geo: Central/East
                  NOR: 5/25/12 Score: 82
                  TSL:11/1/12
                  Med/PFT1: 12/2/12 Cleared
                  Qual: Cleared 12/8/12 GS-7
                  Poly 1: 1/22/13 Poly 2: 2/27/13 Poly 3: 4/16/13 Poly 4: 5/16/13 FINALLY PASSED
                  VBT/SI: 1/27/13 Cleared
                  Background: 5/20/13 Cleared
                  Met BI: 5/29/13
                  TSU: 6/13/13
                  Drug Test:6/12/13
                  PFT 2:
                  EOD: 8/19/13 Newark Airport FLETC: 9/16/13

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                  • Originally posted by CBPO View Post
                    Pointman, Merlin, Yoda, and anyone who is already a CBP officer what do you guys think about the TSP? and the Roth TSP? What's the best thing to do for single people, married people etc And also Medical Insurance options? Is there a "best" option? There's tons of new stuff aka paperwork, new hires have to get through and it's a bit daunting having to sift through all of it to be honest. Just want your opinions on it if at all possible, thanks!
                    5% bro, 5%. Don't put anything less than that or you'll regret is very much later down the line. You can wait on the TSP Roth for now like Yoda said. Just a clarity for the TSP however. They will match 100% up to 3% then the other 2% they will match .50 cent to the dollar. Whatever you do make sure you do 5 % though, lol.
                    For medical plans there are so many to choose from so you'll just have to sit down and figure out which one is best for you in regards to frequency of going to the doctor and cost of premiums.
                    I think I pretty much echoed what Yoda said but figured I respond. Maybe you'll get a better grasp on your approach.
                    Geo:SWB
                    CBPO Exam:08/2/11
                    TSl 1 & 2: 11/14/11 & 11/25/11
                    Medical & Pft1:12/10/11 Passed
                    VBT/SI: 5/10/12 Passed
                    Drug Test: 7/12/12 Passed
                    Qual: (GS-7) Cleared 8/12/12
                    Poly 1 & 2: 9/26/12 & 11/8/12 Passed
                    BI: Met investigator on 12/6 Complete on 3/26/13
                    TSU: 3/28/13
                    EOD: 8/12/13 (Brownsville, TX)
                    FLETC: 9/13/13

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                    • Originally posted by 66Pony View Post
                      Figured I'd address helping out someone before posting my latest news. PFT2 complete...and I passed!! FLETC here I come!

                      There was a total of eight of us and we started at 6:30am! The sun wasn't even up when we met with the supervisor. Six of the folks were BP applicants and only two of us were CBPO. Ironically the other CBPO person lives about four miles from me (and will be a classmate)! From what I was hearing from the others, one BP guy was heading to California and all of the others (including the other CBPO applicant) were headed to south Texas.

                      It started out as a pretty stressful experience. I was going to go to bed early last night to get some good sleep. My wife texted me though, asking why I had left my running clothes at home. Eeeeeek!! In my rush to pack yesterday I forgot to pack them. I had to get up and dressed and head out to Wally World. By the time I got back into bed it was almost 11:30pm. So much for a restful night!

                      When we got out to the track at FLETC they gave us some time to stretch and warm up. The first thing they did was take our pulse and blood pressure. As I've gotten older my blood pressure has gotten a little higher. It's not bad at all, just creeped up a little. The problem is when I get really nervous it shoots up. Combine that with the increase and it then becomes a problem! I knew I would be a little nervous and it would increase. I just wanted it to stay low enough to test. When I passed that I told them, "one hurdle down!". After that we ran the 220, followed by sit ups and then push ups. Everything was done one at a time so it could be video taped. They demonstrated proper form for everything before anyone started. An instructor also held everyone's feet for the sit ups and did the counting for both sit ups and push ups. After everyone passed all of that, the instructors commented about being impressed that no one had failed or had little difficulty with anything. All that was left was the 1 1/2 mile...my last hurdle! I think the BP folks were a little jealous when told they had 15 minutes and we had 17 1/2! Everyone runs at the same time, you just had to state your last name and lap number as you crossed the line each time. They'd then give you a lap time. Everyone took off at the start, leaving me behind.

                      I had already figured out if I could roughly maintain a 2 min 45 sec lap time I'd make it with time left. My first lap was 2:11, which thrilled me. That gave me even more time. After that I maintained about a 2:30 lap time. After about 2 1/2 laps everyone else had lapped me. When they came around on their last lap, I was crossing over on #5 (it was a total of 6 laps). The supervisor thought it was my last lap as I approached and told me she had my final lap time. As I crossed the line and said "lap 5", the other instructors told her I had one more. She said "oops, sorry", but I had a total lap time of 14 something. I just kept giving myself little self motivating goals each lap and then upping them each time. I crossed over at 16 something. I didn't hear what the seconds were because all I needed to hear was 16 ANYTHING(!), and I sprinted down the last straight with everything I had left in me. They told to do a cool down walk and get some more water. Instead I proceeded to barf out the bottle of water that was in me! LOL BTW, everyone in my group passed. Big congrats to them! I'm glad that's over (yeah I know, more awaits!).

                      Sorry for the lengthy post. I figured I'd give some details about the PFT2 because I've seen questions previously posted about the process. Keep the faith everyone. If you want it bad enough, you'll get there!
                      same here brother... same EXACT story... except i re-tore my calf on the 220...

                      i'll do a post on my own. congrats. we gotta get into better shape for fletc...
                      tested in San Diego- SWB, 10/11
                      NOR-11/11
                      TSL- 11/17/11
                      pft1- 12/8/11
                      Pre-E Forms-completed 3/12
                      Qual- completed 3/12
                      Medical Ex- completed 4/12
                      S I-completed 3/12
                      Drug Screening- completed 6/7/12
                      Background Investigation- met with BI 6/5/13
                      Fitness- completed 12/12

                      EOD- 9/9/13 SYS
                      Fletc- 10-15-13, class 338
                      new fletc date- 11-18-13

                      SYS CBPO 4-1-2014

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                      • my pft2 was similar to 66pony.

                        chula vista, ca. 830 am. the proctors were cbpo or bpa.

                        6 bpa and i'd say 12 cbp testers including myself. all going to SYS or LAX (2) (lucky ones)

                        the 220 yrd dash, one person at a time, 2 people running max.

                        sit ups, you stop after minimum
                        push ups, you stop after minimum

                        1.5- everyone runs.

                        i had injured myself 3 weeks ago in the calf, partial calf tear. ran only once in the track 3 days before pft2. on the 220, pop, there it goes again. the pain, the adrenaline, the thoughts of waiting for so long depended on this silly run... make or break. i pushed all what i had and made it at 16:56 or something.

                        got dizzy at the end, had to sit around, puked gatorade and sips of water i had throughout the pft2. every tester had left except for me and all the cbp/bpa were there hanging out with me to see i was ok. nice folks outside of being proctors.

                        none the less i passed. i'm about to knock out now. in 3 hrs, i would be up for 24. good night!

                        preacademy, here i come oct 12 SYS!
                        tested in San Diego- SWB, 10/11
                        NOR-11/11
                        TSL- 11/17/11
                        pft1- 12/8/11
                        Pre-E Forms-completed 3/12
                        Qual- completed 3/12
                        Medical Ex- completed 4/12
                        S I-completed 3/12
                        Drug Screening- completed 6/7/12
                        Background Investigation- met with BI 6/5/13
                        Fitness- completed 12/12

                        EOD- 9/9/13 SYS
                        Fletc- 10-15-13, class 338
                        new fletc date- 11-18-13

                        SYS CBPO 4-1-2014

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                        • [QUOTE=Mole177;3334218]my pft2 was similar to 66pony.

                          chula vista, ca. 830 am. the proctors were cbpo or bpa.

                          6 bpa and i'd say 12 cbp testers including myself. all going to SYS or LAX (2) (lucky ones)

                          the 220 yrd dash, one person at a time, 2 people running max.

                          sit ups, you stop after minimum
                          push ups, you stop after minimum

                          1.5- everyone runs.

                          ...[QUOTE]

                          Congrats! They made you guys stop at minimum? I thought the instructors adhered to "as many as you can" in the alloted time. I guess every test center is a little different based upon the number of test takers.

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                          • Originally posted by StoneFace View Post
                            Congrats! They made you guys stop at minimum? I thought the instructors adhered to "as many as you can" in the alloted time. I guess every test center is a little different based upon the number of test takers.
                            Same with mine, number necessary to pass and stop (for the push ups and sit ups). On the 220 they specifically told us don't push so hard you pull something. I would imagine all of it is so you aren't trying to do the 1 1/2 mile while injured and risk not making it. My proctors were were all CBP.

                            BTW, thanks everyone!

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                            • Originally posted by 66Pony View Post
                              Same with mine, number necessary to pass and stop (for the push ups and sit ups). On the 220 they specifically told us don't push so hard you pull something. I would imagine all of it is so you aren't trying to do the 1 1/2 mile while injured and risk not making it. My proctors were were all CBP.

                              BTW, thanks everyone!
                              Same thing they told us the sprint is the only thing I can really see you hurting yourself doing out here and we don't want anyone to hurt themselves before FLETC. We also only did up until our minimum. I wonder if that is possibly cause we had 20 plus people so they were just trying to get through everybody.
                              Test : Jul 2011
                              NOR: Aug 2011
                              Loc Change: Jan 2012
                              TSL: Feb 2012
                              E-Quip: Mar 2012
                              PFT 1 : Mar 2012
                              E Quip follow up: April 2012 (paperwork on my sister that was adopted from China)
                              Physical: April 2012
                              Lasik: May 2012 (placed on 6 month medical hold)
                              Polygraph: Feb 2013
                              BI: Mar 2013
                              DS delayed: April 2013(Daughter in Children's Hospital )
                              DS: Jun 2013
                              LOA: Jul 2013
                              PFT2: Aug 13 2012
                              EOD: Sept 9 2013
                              FLETC: Oct 15 2013

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                              • Whats customary for a first day of EOD? What goes on? Alot of paperwork im gonna guess?
                                CBPO Exam: 4/29/12
                                Geo: Central/East
                                NOR: 5/25/12 Score: 82
                                TSL:11/1/12
                                Med/PFT1: 12/2/12 Cleared
                                Qual: Cleared 12/8/12 GS-7
                                Poly 1: 1/22/13 Poly 2: 2/27/13 Poly 3: 4/16/13 Poly 4: 5/16/13 FINALLY PASSED
                                VBT/SI: 1/27/13 Cleared
                                Background: 5/20/13 Cleared
                                Met BI: 5/29/13
                                TSU: 6/13/13
                                Drug Test:6/12/13
                                PFT 2:
                                EOD: 8/19/13 Newark Airport FLETC: 9/16/13

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