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  • Originally posted by merlin436 View Post
    Test scores(other than passing the test) have nothing to do with supervisor selections anywhere I'm aware of. Management chooses anyone who they want to promote out of the list of those who pass.
    This is not correct. I am not at work right now but I will see if I can dig up how it is done. You just have to find the merit promotion plan for CBP. Basically, It works depending upon how many Sup slots being filled. X number of the names are placed on the list starting with the high scorer out the number of people that put in for the Sup position in that port. Don't quote me because I have to look it up but I think the number of names starts at twenty and three names get added for each additional Sup slot. HR is very involved in the process as they are the ones that make and certify the list.

    Ties count toward the number of names. For example, say 100 people put in for a one sup job at port A. The first 5 people scored 98% better than everybody that took the test. There are the first 5 names. The next 10 scored 95% better than everybody else. there are the next 10. The next 5 scored 92 percent better than everybody else. That is the last 5 to complete the 20 names. So if you didn't score better than 92% better than everybody else you are NOT making the list for that position. It is different for every position because it varies based upon who actually put in for the jobs at that port and their scores.

    Score matters very much in making it on to the list. Once on the list for that particular position the score doesn't matter they can pick any of the twenty that made the list.

    FB

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    • Originally posted by EscapeCBP
      WELL we are not law enforcment.
      I call shenanigans.

      "As a CBP Officer (Enforcement), you will perform a full range of CBP inspectional activities at high-risk Ports of Entry (POE) for the purpose of investigating individuals suspected or convicted of violations of criminal and civil laws, regulations, trade agreements or treaties enforced by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.You will serve as a primary law enforcement officer (under 5 U.S.C. 8331(6c) 8412(d) and therefore are eligible for Law Enforcement Officer retirement. You will be responsible for the apprehension, detection, and investigation of suspected and convicted criminals for the purpose of prosecution.You will be vested with arrest authority, carry and be proficient in the use of firearms, and be in frequent and direct contact with criminal suspects.You will perform rigorous duties in an often challenging and dangerous work environment, conduct interrogations, and work substantial amounts of overtime.You will also perform the inspection, intelligence analysis, examination, and law enforcement activities related to the arrival and departure of people, conveyances, and merchandise at the POE to include identifying potential terrorist and instruments of terror, performing pre- and post-incident activity investigations, and interpreting laws and regulations of a broad range of federal, state, and local agencies."

      That's a quote from the OPM description of CBP Officer. But, you're probably right, Escape.
      "He made the night a little brighter where ever he would go. The old lamplighter of long, long ago."

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      • Originally posted by Lamp Lighter View Post
        I call shenanigans.

        "As a CBP Officer (Enforcement), you will perform a full range of CBP inspectional activities at high-risk Ports of Entry (POE) for the purpose of investigating individuals suspected or convicted of violations of criminal and civil laws, regulations, trade agreements or treaties enforced by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.You will serve as a primary law enforcement officer (under 5 U.S.C. 8331(6c) 8412(d) and therefore are eligible for Law Enforcement Officer retirement. You will be responsible for the apprehension, detection, and investigation of suspected and convicted criminals for the purpose of prosecution.You will be vested with arrest authority, carry and be proficient in the use of firearms, and be in frequent and direct contact with criminal suspects.You will perform rigorous duties in an often challenging and dangerous work environment, conduct interrogations, and work substantial amounts of overtime.You will also perform the inspection, intelligence analysis, examination, and law enforcement activities related to the arrival and departure of people, conveyances, and merchandise at the POE to include identifying potential terrorist and instruments of terror, performing pre- and post-incident activity investigations, and interpreting laws and regulations of a broad range of federal, state, and local agencies."

        That's a quote from the OPM description of CBP Officer. But, you're probably right, Escape.
        Though I do not agree the EscapeCBP, there is a difference between a CBP Officer (enforcement) and a CBP Officer. CBP Officer (enforcement) is a position that you apply for after being an CBP Officer for several years. You can not be hired off the street to be a CBP Officer (enforcement)

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        • My bad, FB. Thank you for the clarification. Enforcement sounds like something cool to shoot for once you're in.
          Last edited by Lamp Lighter; 03-16-2010, 10:41 PM.
          "He made the night a little brighter where ever he would go. The old lamplighter of long, long ago."

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          • Originally posted by alb3508 View Post
            For those waiting for positions in FL. I spoke to TSU today and they told me they hired 2 people for Miami last week. Doesnt really mean much but at least the ball is starting to roll.

            TO: 12/28/2008
            TSU: 4/2/2009
            If this is true, they are not going by TO or TSU date. I have an earlier TO and TSU date. Perhaps it should read 12/28/2007? My TO is 06/2008 and TSU 03/2009. I am also for Miami.

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            • Just when I thought Escape actually might just have a shot of turning to a rational person on some of the issues, he has to go and drop the "we are not law enforcement" bomb. Sheesh. *rolling eyes*

              By any reasonable definition of the term "law enforcement"...we qualify as "law enforcement". Those who want to hang their hats on the retirement definitions, or any other non-standard definition, feel free to do so. You look stupid arguing it...but whatever turns your crank.

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                Last edited by imlikeaninja; 07-27-2014, 10:14 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Firebug View Post
                  This is not correct. I am not at work right now but I will see if I can dig up how it is done. You just have to find the merit promotion plan for CBP. Basically, It works depending upon how many Sup slots being filled. X number of the names are placed on the list starting with the high scorer out the number of people that put in for the Sup position in that port. Don't quote me because I have to look it up but I think the number of names starts at twenty and three names get added for each additional Sup slot. HR is very involved in the process as they are the ones that make and certify the list.

                  Ties count toward the number of names. For example, say 100 people put in for a one sup job at port A. The first 5 people scored 98% better than everybody that took the test. There are the first 5 names. The next 10 scored 95% better than everybody else. there are the next 10. The next 5 scored 92 percent better than everybody else. That is the last 5 to complete the 20 names. So if you didn't score better than 92% better than everybody else you are NOT making the list for that position. It is different for every position because it varies based upon who actually put in for the jobs at that port and their scores.

                  Score matters very much in making it on to the list. Once on the list for that particular position the score doesn't matter they can pick any of the twenty that made the list.

                  FB
                  It's very likely that I've simply never 'seen a list' with more than 20 names on it then. That wouldn't suprise me at all.

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                  • Originally posted by waitingny View Post
                    So I know this is very far in my future, but what is the K9 Unit like? What do you need to do to get into this unit? This is my goal once I finally get "the call."
                    I have been at my POE for a year and a couple months now. Being a K9 officer is my goal, but i'm hearing that it could take YEARS and YEARS to get in.

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                    • Originally posted by nordy racer View Post
                      I have been at my POE for a year and a couple months now. Being a K9 officer is my goal, but i'm hearing that it could take YEARS and YEARS to get in.
                      Good thing you have years and years before you retire. One thing I've noticed in my travels is that things seem to always move faster than we are told to expect (except hiring). A long time ago when in the military I was told to expect to get E-5 at about the 8-10 year mark, I had it on in 4. I figured I would not be eligible for CPL at the local agency I worked until I had been there almost 20 years. I am still in contact with several of my former co-workers, and I would have put it on 6 years in. I was told not to expect to do anything but the basics for several years when I started at my port. Less than a year in, I was selected for CSI training and started training in targeting. Within three years I started going TDY for the CSI program. My work ethic is simple keep your nose clean show interest in other areas and help out a little without pay. It seems to have helped me get ahead more quickly than expected.
                      But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

                      For the intelectually challenged: If the government screws the people enough, it is the right and responsibility of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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                      • Originally posted by FLA22 View Post
                        If this is true, they are not going by TO or TSU date. I have an earlier TO and TSU date. Perhaps it should read 12/28/2007? My TO is 06/2008 and TSU 03/2009. I am also for Miami.
                        That is the poster's TO / TSU date, not the TO date of the people that received the call.
                        CBPO East Texas
                        TO: 3/3/09
                        Pre-Emp Forms: 3/26/09
                        Fitness: 4/6/09 -Passed
                        Medical: 4/6/09 -Passed
                        VBT: 4/7/09 -Passed
                        Quals: (GS-7) 4/10/09 -Verified
                        Drug Test: 4/17/09 -Passed
                        BI: 8/27/09 -Cleared
                        TSU: 8/27/09
                        FCRA: 05/19/10
                        BI Update: 6/16/10

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                        • waiting

                          Anyone know what happens after your status on cass says that you have been referred to scheduling? I took the test in 07 and was done with everything near the end of 08, my status changed on 10/9/09 and at first it said that i should hear something in 30-60 days, but when i have called them, the only advice they give me is to keep waiting because there are no vacancies at this time.

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                          • Originally posted by imlikeaninja View Post
                            Did he really say that? Thats funny coming from someone who claims to be a law enforcement officer.

                            LOL
                            TO-6/16/08
                            TSU-E.TX 12/01/08

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                            • Hey guys, I got the Call!!!! For ICE.

                              Thanks for all your help and information over the years (yes, I can't believe it, but it has been years). I hope you all get the call soon! Good luck and Thanks again.

                              P.S. - You can remove me from the list now.
                              CBPO:
                              EXAM: 8/08
                              NOR: 9/9/08 - 98
                              T.O.: 2/2/09
                              GEO - E. TX
                              Forms - 2/6/09
                              Quals - 4/13/09
                              Med - 2/27/09 Clr 4/10/09
                              VBT - 3/10/09 Clr 4/6/09
                              UDS - 6/24/09
                              BI - Met w. B.I. 4/12/09 clr 7/2/09
                              Fitness - 3/9/09
                              TSU - 7/2/09
                              ___________________

                              Law Enforcement Specialist (ICE)
                              GEO: VT
                              NOR: 99 (GS-11)
                              T.O.: 10/28/09
                              B.I.: clr 3/12/10
                              E.O.D.: 4/11/2010!!!

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                              • Originally posted by artisan57 View Post
                                Anyone know what happens after your status on cass says that you have been referred to scheduling? I took the test in 07 and was done with everything near the end of 08, my status changed on 10/9/09 and at first it said that i should hear something in 30-60 days, but when i have called them, the only advice they give me is to keep waiting because there are no vacancies at this time.
                                Basically now you get in line and wait for a training slot. The old 30-60 day timeframe has turned into 1 year plus. You are now in a very large boat with the rest of us. Welcome aboard.

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