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  • Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
    They said there would be "new positions" in addition to attrition replacement last year. So far, in the past 5 months of the new fiscal year, I don't believe we've seen a single new hire to any port in the entire US. There is a reason the President want's to cut funding to CBP - It's most likely because:

    A. The agency doesn't fit into the strategy of securing aircraft prior to loading and departure, like the FAMS/TSA do.

    B. Passenger volume has, so far, outpaced attrition in the major airports for negative growth.

    CBP at big airports analyze passengers AFTER they have landed, only from abroad, and after the threat to passengers is largely over. When has their been an attack AT an airport AFTER arrival? If you are en route, you would be best served to attack the aircraft in flight. If you are departing an airport domestically, CBP has nothing to do with you, as it isn't in their charter. Unless the administration starts pushing Customs pre-clearance abroad or there is a congressional change to CBP powers, we will rely on passenger and cargo volume for growth. This is the most telling as to whether a job is coming or not. I'll start to get psyched when JFK posts big numbers or when an act of congress begins construction on pre-clearance sites at every major foreign airport.
    There has been at least one 2010 class hired and at FLETC now. That's 48 or more new hires this FY.

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    • Originally posted by merlin436 View Post
      There has been at least one 2010 class hired and at FLETC now. That's 48 or more new hires this FY.
      If that is true, statistically, based on the TSU numbers believed on this or the other site, we should have seen or heard about a couple of those people on these forums.

      This leads me to believe that there are very few people in that class OR that TSU numbers are that much higher than any of us think, based on the "5-10% of us are represented on these forums" idea

      Every one of those cadets had a 5-10% out of 100% chance of being a forum user. None of them were. Somebody's numbers are off, is it the number of CBP cadets at Fletc or the percentage of TSU applicants on these forums? Either way it isn't good.
      CBPO
      GEO - NY/JFK
      TEST - 03/08 (NOR: 04/08)

      TO - 01/09
      PE Forms - Completed
      Fitness - Completed
      VBT - 03/09 - Completed
      Drug Screen - Completed
      Qual - 05/09 - Completed
      B.I. - 05/09 - Completed
      Medical - 05/09 - Completed
      TSU


      EOD: ???
      FLETC: ???

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      • Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
        So far, in the past 5 months of the new fiscal year, I don't believe we've seen a single new hire to any port in the entire US.
        UH, wrong. We have a couple at my port, who were hired within the last five or six months and there are classes going on at FLETC right now.

        Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
        CBP at big airports analyze passengers AFTER they have landed.....
        Either you're incorrect on this, or I'm doing my job incorrectly. My money is, I'm doing my job correctly.

        Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
        Unless the administration starts pushing Customs pre-clearance abroad....
        Granted it is a small program, but we have pre-clearance abroad. The program could use a drastic increase along the line of CSI, but it is out there. This is what I was talking about in my original post. At least some of those 300 could be slated to replace people going to pre-clearance jobs.
        Last edited by kc12; 02-05-2010, 02:36 PM.
        But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

        For the intelectually challenged: If the government screws the people enough, it is the right and responsibility of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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        • Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
          If that is true, statistically, based on the TSU numbers believed on this or the other site, we should have seen or heard about a couple of those people on these forums.

          This leads me to believe that there are very few people in that class OR that TSU numbers are that much higher than any of us think, based on the "5-10% of us are represented on these forums" idea

          Every one of those cadets had a 5-10% out of 100% chance of being a forum user. None of them were. Somebody's numbers are off, is it the number of CBP cadets at Fletc or the percentage of TSU applicants on these forums? Either way it isn't good.
          I would say less than 5% of us in TSU are on this forum.

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          • Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
            If that is true, statistically, based on the TSU numbers believed on this or the other site, we should have seen or heard about a couple of those people on these forums.

            This leads me to believe that there are very few people in that class OR that TSU numbers are that much higher than any of us think, based on the "5-10% of us are represented on these forums" idea

            Every one of those cadets had a 5-10% out of 100% chance of being a forum user. None of them were. Somebody's numbers are off, is it the number of CBP cadets at Fletc or the percentage of TSU applicants on these forums? Either way it isn't good.
            Assuming the 5-10% WAG is even remotely accurate that would place the TSU list at somewhere between 1330-2660 names (going off the list generated on the previous page). It would be very easy to randomly select 50 people off that list and not hit anybody on these boards. That is assuming 5-10% is even remotely accurate. That also assumes the people selected who are on these boards even make a big deal out of being selected. I know I didn't.

            Also if you take into consideration that there are only 9 people listed who have TO's for the SW border that makes it even more improbable that someone selected would be on this board. That is if the rumor about the only hiring being for the SW border is correct.
            But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

            For the intelectually challenged: If the government screws the people enough, it is the right and responsibility of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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            • Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
              They said there would be "new positions" in addition to attrition replacement last year. So far, in the past 5 months of the new fiscal year, I don't believe we've seen a single new hire to any port in the entire US. There is a reason the President want's to cut funding to CBP - It's most likely because:

              A. The agency doesn't fit into the strategy of securing aircraft prior to loading and departure, like the FAMS/TSA do.

              B. Passenger volume has, so far, outpaced attrition in the major airports for negative growth.

              CBP at big airports analyze passengers AFTER they have landed, only from abroad, and after the threat to passengers is largely over. When has their been an attack AT an airport AFTER arrival? If you are en route, you would be best served to attack the aircraft in flight. If you are departing an airport domestically, CBP has nothing to do with you, as it isn't in their charter. Unless the administration starts pushing Customs pre-clearance abroad or there is a congressional change to CBP powers, we will rely on passenger and cargo volume for growth. This is the most telling as to whether a job is coming or not. I'll start to get psyched when JFK posts big numbers or when an act of congress begins construction on pre-clearance sites at every major foreign airport.

              A. CBP Pre-Screens incoming passengers before they even board the plane overseas.

              B. This I really do believe is true, not too long ago I was on an international flight, the int'l flight was booked but the domestic flight from SEA-TAC to Dallas only had about 8 passengers on it (3 of them was my family) and NO I AM NOT EXAGGERATING!

              Peter
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              T.O.: 2/2/09
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              Forms - 2/6/09
              Quals - 4/13/09
              Med - 2/27/09 Clr 4/10/09
              VBT - 3/10/09 Clr 4/6/09
              UDS - 6/24/09
              BI - Met w. B.I. 4/12/09 clr 7/2/09
              Fitness - 3/9/09
              TSU - 7/2/09
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              NOR: 99 (GS-11)
              T.O.: 10/28/09
              B.I.: clr 3/12/10
              E.O.D.: 4/11/2010!!!

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              • Originally posted by ranma143 View Post
                300...and there is like 2000+ us waiting in TSU..GOOD LUCK!!!!
                There are not that many people in TSU.

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                • Originally posted by drcapp View Post
                  There are not that many people in TSU.
                  I agree. 2000 is pretty excessive.
                  "He made the night a little brighter where ever he would go. The old lamplighter of long, long ago."

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                  • Originally posted by drcapp View Post
                    There are not that many people in TSU.
                    I'm with you on that. There are definitely not 2000 people in TSU. You people are ridiculous with coming up with these numbers.
                    Last edited by PL07; 02-05-2010, 03:38 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by PL07 View Post
                      I'm with you on that. There are definitely not 2000 people in TSU. You people are ridiculous with coming up with these numbers.
                      5% = 100+

                      100% = 2000+


                      enough said!

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                      • Wow you are so smart. You're basing this off numbers which you do not even know are accurate or not. I am already employed by CBP...I could care less. I'm just letting you guys know how idiotic you sound.

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                        • This is all pure speculation. Unless someone has a source within CBP, the number shall remain a mystery.
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                          TSU 8/7/09 Washington Northern Border
                          T.O. 3/31/09
                          S7

                          FAM
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                          paperwork: 3/27/10
                          CO: Waiting

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                          • Originally posted by TuffStuffCBP View Post
                            They said there would be "new positions" in addition to attrition replacement last year. So far, in the past 5 months of the new fiscal year, I don't believe we've seen a single new hire to any port in the entire US. There is a reason the President want's to cut funding to CBP - It's most likely because:

                            A. The agency doesn't fit into the strategy of securing aircraft prior to loading and departure, like the FAMS/TSA do.

                            B. Passenger volume has, so far, outpaced attrition in the major airports for negative growth.

                            CBP at big airports analyze passengers AFTER they have landed, only from abroad, and after the threat to passengers is largely over. When has their been an attack AT an airport AFTER arrival? If you are en route, you would be best served to attack the aircraft in flight. If you are departing an airport domestically, CBP has nothing to do with you, as it isn't in their charter. Unless the administration starts pushing Customs pre-clearance abroad or there is a congressional change to CBP powers, we will rely on passenger and cargo volume for growth. This is the most telling as to whether a job is coming or not. I'll start to get psyched when JFK posts big numbers or when an act of congress begins construction on pre-clearance sites at every major foreign airport.

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                            • Originally posted by robeans View Post
                              I meant for passenger safety, which is a big political football right now... and usually. CBP doesn't protect passengers,They protect everyone else is all I'm saying.
                              CBPO
                              GEO - NY/JFK
                              TEST - 03/08 (NOR: 04/08)

                              TO - 01/09
                              PE Forms - Completed
                              Fitness - Completed
                              VBT - 03/09 - Completed
                              Drug Screen - Completed
                              Qual - 05/09 - Completed
                              B.I. - 05/09 - Completed
                              Medical - 05/09 - Completed
                              TSU


                              EOD: ???
                              FLETC: ???

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                              • Originally posted by ranma143 View Post
                                5% = 100+

                                100% = 2000+

                                enough said!
                                i'm a long time watcher with a tsu date of 6/9/09 but a rare poster. they're right, your numbers are based on figures that are very very un-conformed. no reason to worry about that. either we will get called soon or we won't. no reason to upset others who are in TSU with problems that have no background info. It is not the best situation but you can complain or wait and see what comes out of it. nothing will change, but maybe this board will take a more hopefull turn then it has been

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