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Originally posted by MPUSMC View PostWell maybe on the bright side if attrition brought the ranks down roughly 250 positions last year assuming the retirements follow suit this year even with letting attrition take another 130 positions it still leaves vacancies for an academy?
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That is where the budget proposal is unclear. If the 130 members they are trying to cut are lost through attrition, what about the 9800 remaining layoffs that are being proposed. Will that trickle down to the NYSP, or are they then exempt from that?
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I read the Budget proposal, from what I could comprehend it appears they are taking 130 positions through attrition. Unlike last year which stated plainly that no Academy would take place in the 2010-2011 fiscal year which would result in roughly 270 positions left vacant. This budget does not address that issue at all, which leaves the academy issue as still possible however how unlikely it may well be. Maybe I am just hoping for the best since they did not say anything about in this budget about not have a Academy like they did in last years budget.
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Originally posted by MBracko View PostThat is where the budget proposal is unclear. If the 130 members they are trying to cut are lost through attrition, what about the 9800 remaining layoffs that are being proposed. Will that trickle down to the NYSP, or are they then exempt from that?I make my living on Irish welfare.
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Originally posted by MPUSMC View Post...Unlike last year which stated plainly that no Academy would take place in the 2010-2011 fiscal year...This budget does not address that issue at all, which leaves the academy issue as still possible however how unlikely it may well be. Maybe I am just hoping for the best since they did not say anything about in this budget about not have a Academy like they did in last years budget.
My question is, if an academy is not specifically allocated in the budget, where will the money come from? Could the state just pull it out of the general fund if they decide they absolutely need to put a class through during this fiscal year? Not really sure how that works, but it seems to me if it is not spelled out in the budget, it would be rather difficult to grab a few million $$ (or however much it costs) to put an class through.
Can't wait to see what happens with it all.
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Originally posted by MBracko View Posthttp://publications.budget.state.ny....sentations.pdf
That was the information that I have. My buddy's brother sent it to me as he knows I am hoping to get into the next class.
It does state "The above table does not reflect layoffs that may be necessary in the absence of negotiated workforce savings."You can now follow me on twitter.
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Originally posted by Daking0fqueens View PostNYST pulled over my fiance for dark tints!!! WTF!!
Back to the hiring part: Can anyone explain how your pension contributions/time transfer over to NYSP from the NYPD? I'm confused because of all the pension reform and changes going on. Right now I'm in what's called tier 3... basically it's 22 years for 50% retirement with no COLA or 25 years for 50% with COLA. We contribute a steady 3% for the duration of our employment. What is the pension system for new hires with NYSP? Has it been modified from 20 to 25 years? If we are transferring our time over will we be under a 20 year tier? Or 25? Thanks in advance. You guys in the NYSP are top notch, always professional and on point. I hope the State gets their money game right soon so you guys can hire again.Last edited by nyc7011; 02-10-2011, 05:23 AM.
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Originally posted by nyc7011 View PostBack to the hiring part: Can anyone explain how your pension contributions/time transfer over to NYSP from the NYPD? I'm confused because of all the pension reform and changes going on. Right now I'm in what's called tier 3... basically it's 22 years for 50% retirement with no COLA or 25 years for 50% with COLA. We contribute a steady 3% for the duration of our employment. What is the pension system for new hires with NYSP? Has it been modified from 20 to 25 years? If we are transferring our time over will we be under a 20 year tier? Or 25? Thanks in advance. You guys in the NYSP are top notch, always professional and on point. I hope the State gets their money game right soon so you guys can hire again.
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/retire/em...er-5/index.php
I hope the information in this link helps. I don't know about your particular situation. All of our people are Tier 2 (I don't think we have any Tier 1 left). New hires will be in Tier 5, but we haven't hired anyone since the inception of Tier 5. If you came from a Tier 2 system, I suspect you would stay in Tier 2. Coming from a ERS Tier 3, it states those currently in Tier 1,2,3,4 will not be effected by this legislation.
But it also states PFER Tier 1,2 will not be effected. I don't know about PFRS Tier 3. Worth a phone call.Last edited by SlowDownThere; 02-10-2011, 03:23 PM.You can now follow me on twitter.
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Originally posted by phoenix23 View PostHave any of the other Troops started the 2nd half of in-service training yet? Just curious...
Yes... that was on my review sheet.
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Originally posted by Trooper4985 View PostI think a taser for everyone or PQC every month would be much better spent money and more practical.
Yes... that was on my review sheet.I make my living on Irish welfare.
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Originally posted by Trooper4985 View PostAll that wasted money would be much better spend (IMHO) at the range or on equipment. I think a taser for everyone or PQC every month would be much better spent money and more practical.
Yes... that was on my review sheet.
The other familiarization is essential and that is all I am going to say about that on here.
What they need is more ground fighting as more and more of the youth want to be a 'cage fighters' and are training rigorously to accomplish this.
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