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  • FBI Police

    http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/job...1&SUBMIT1.y=13


    posted openings for DC Area
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  • #2
    No offense but it's a security based job, they don't have jurisdiction anywhere except around the bldgs they protect, and the pay is about average for the area.
    If you want to be a LEO in the DC area.....apply for the USPP, MPD, PG County, Montgomery County, Howard County, Loudoun County, Fairfax County, the Airport, Pentagon, the military bases, or Transit......

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PPDMO373
      No offense but it's a security based job, they don't have jurisdiction anywhere except around the bldgs they protect, and the pay is about average for the area.
      If you want to be a LEO in the DC area.....apply for the USPP, MPD, PG County, Montgomery County, Howard County, Loudoun County, Fairfax County, the Airport, Pentagon, the military bases, or Transit......

      Just posted this for info purposes but do they not fall into the Federal category although the job description is more security based but Federal gives them jurisdiction anywhere correct?

      right/wrong????????????
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Chiller
        Just posted this for info purposes but do they not fall into the Federal category although the job description is more security based but Federal gives them jurisdiction anywhere correct?

        right/wrong????????????
        The guys I talked to at the FBI Bldg. in DC (I was there during Police Week this year) said no.....They only have jurisdiction on FBI property and some footage around the bldg.....
        They call MPD if there is something going on across the street that doesn't directly deal with them.

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        • #5
          That is based on the Agency placing that restriction on their on-duty officers, but yes they do have jurisdiction everywhere because they are federal.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by COBRA29
            That is based on the Agency placing that restriction on their on-duty officers, but yes they do have jurisdiction everywhere because they are federal.


            Wouldn't FBI Police be kinda like SSUD or Capitol Police but for different buildings/areas for the most part? Maybe I'm just missing something
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            • #7
              Here's what's on the job announcement at FBI.gov. Sounds similar to SSUD and the like.

              Major Duties:
              Performs law enforcement and protective security duties at and
              around FBI facilities. The primary mission is to deter or respond
              to a terrorist attack or other criminal acts at and around FBI
              facilities. The other criminal acts may include trespassing, theft,
              fire and accidental and/or willful damage and destruction. Maintains
              law and order and provides a variety of protective services for
              employees employees and visitors on Federal property. Serves on any
              shift and rotates, on a periodic basis, to stationary posts, roving
              patrols, control desk, stake-out, and physical security escort
              assignments. At stationary posts, thoroughly checks for proper
              identification of pedestrian and vehicular traffic prior to
              admittance to secure space. Performs unscheduled periodic perimeter
              and internal patrols of the building(s) and grounds by checking for
              unsecured doors and windows, illegal entry, suspicious persons and
              vehicles, etc. Operates and monitors technical electronic intrusion
              and communications systems at a control desk. May leave immediate
              jurisdiction to pursue felons and perform other dangerous
              assignments
              . May be assigned to similar duties on a temporary basis
              at or near any FBI facility in the United States and Puerto Rico.
              Last edited by Washingtonian; 09-27-2005, 05:38 PM.
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              • #8
                but yes they do have jurisdiction everywhere because they are federal.
                No the FBI police dont have jurisdiction everywhere. They have jurisdiction at and authority on FBI owned property which isnt that much. They patrol several buildings in DC, the NCIC building in West Virginia, the FBI training compound in Quantico and have several officers stationed at major Field offices in the US. The majority of their job is checking id's, manning the doors at the Hoover building and driving to the Hard Rock cafe a block up for their dinner time meal. I went to FLETC with 2 folks who worked for the FBI police. Both left within 6-9 months because the job was very restrictive. One is currently a deputy in Loudon county VA and the other is with the Secret Service.
                I don't answer recruitment messages....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by orlandofed5-0
                  No the FBI police dont have jurisdiction everywhere. They have jurisdiction at and authority on FBI owned property which isnt that much. They patrol several buildings in DC, the NCIC building in West Virginia, the FBI training compound in Quantico and have several officers stationed at major Field offices in the US. The majority of their job is checking id's, manning the doors at the Hoover building and driving to the Hard Rock cafe a block up for their dinner time meal. I went to FLETC with 2 folks who worked for the FBI police. Both left within 6-9 months because the job was very restrictive. One is currently a deputy in Loudon county VA and the other is with the Secret Service.


                  Thanx Fed....I guess if that's what their job entails...Just sounds like SSUD and/or Capitol to me. Hell,I just wanna get my foot in the door for now and worry about the rest later. Since they have no authority elsewhere,then does that mean if they see a crime committed off duty somewhere that they can't make an arrest or stop while it's in progress?????
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                  • #10
                    LET me say this again for those of you in the cheap seats!

                    FBI police does have authority everywhere just like, SSUD,and Cap Police, because they are federal. The only difference is "On Duty" the agency does not want or allow them doing things such as traffic or much of anything else. Unlike SSUD and Cap.

                    But because they are federal police officers they have authority to carry off duty and make arrests anywhere in U.S.

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                    • #11
                      But because they are federal police officers they have authority to carry off duty and make arrests anywhere in U.S.


                      Cobra,

                      Because they are federal police officers, doesn't mean they have the authority to make arrests anywhere in the US, UNLESS, they are within the scope of their duties. If they are off duty away from their jurisdiction, they can not arrest someone. They can be a witness and detain, but they can not arrest outside of their jurisdiction.

                      The off duty carry, you are correct about.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by COBRA29
                        LET me say this again for those of you in the cheap seats!

                        FBI police does have authority everywhere just like, SSUD,and Cap Police, because they are federal. The only difference is "On Duty" the agency does not want or allow them doing things such as traffic or much of anything else. Unlike SSUD and Cap.

                        But because they are federal police officers they have authority to carry off duty and make arrests anywhere in U.S.
                        As a tribal police officer (which by the way only gives me partial federal authority) and a former 0083 police officer, you are WRONG... First and foremost, no federal police officer or agent has that much off duty authority to make an arrest for a state crime that is committed in their presence. It is not the job of a FEDERAL officer to enforce local laws other than that prescribed in 18 USC 13 WHILE ON DUTY.

                        The FBI police DO NOT have authority or jursidiction off of FBI/justice department owned property in DC, even though they are apart of the Norton act, they still call the Metropolitan DC police to make an arrest or issue a summons. They check id's and man the doors at the Hoover building. At Quantico, they call the MP's for anything little. In NY and LA they sit at a little booth checking ID's and in West Virginia they provide security for the NCIC building.

                        I was a federal officer under Title 38 sections 901 and 902. I had no authority to act outside the scope of my employment and to make arrests outside of government owened land. FBI police officers do not have the authority to make arrests off duty.

                        Also the USSS-UD and USCP do not have all this grand authority that you mentioned as it would be illegal. The US Government holds no police powers other than that given to it in the constitution. Hmm, you need to sit through federal law 101.

                        Chiller.. Its a good agency to get your foot in the door with but the job is mostly security related. Its good to get your FLETC mixed basic out of the way and you can always transfer to another agency while employed there. The FBI does not want its police officers (who dont carry govt. firearms off duty) in any sort of way acting outside the scope of employment which you will learn. The 2 guys in my class left after 6-9 months of working there because they did not like being restricted so much. The FBI in recent years has tried to get more older and retired officers to get on with them.
                        I don't answer recruitment messages....

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                        • #13
                          As a federal officer I can tell you orlando5-0 is right. People think that because you are a Fed LEO you can enforce any fed/local/state laws on and off duty and that our authority supercedes state/local. That is a HUGE misconception.......did I say HUGE?. If you believe that we are both wrong, go ask an FBI PO, I am sure they will tell you the same. Basically a security job, no off-duty carry, very limited jurisdiction while on duty and off duty, but a good stepping stone.
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                          • #14
                            Good post

                            Alot of people out there thunk the feds have all of this authority. They Dont, I also was a 0083 with two different agencies. We had to put our guns up at the end of shift... Anyway the federal government doesnt want a police agency. There is a very gray area of arrest. Always a double edged sword, you ll be damn if you arrest and damn if you dont. I have since went to a municipal agency in Northern Virginia, I get the same pay if not more and I have the power to arrest and its spelled out in the State Code. I love the job. The feds are a great place to begin a law enforcement career due to the training that you ll receive and at the end of a career due to the relaxed environment.

                            For the jurisdiction part just remember like this a Maryland State officer goes to Florida does he have the power to arrest.of course not. The same is with the Feds. The federal gov is a totally different sovereinty. To look up these laws further look into federal rule and regulations which spell things out alittle more in depth. thanks and good luck to ALL. Be Safe.

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                            • #15
                              When I say arrest I meant felony in presence. I say this because I experienced it with FBI officer whom is a friend, we were both off duty when were involved in shooting and made the arrest.

                              As for off duty carry yes they can carry. Law states that all federal agencies may carry but only if permitted by their agency. That is when you cannot regardless of the law. Try getting into an incident and not having your agency back you up. Your taking your chances.

                              So dont second guess my experience as I was 0083 at the time also.

                              And being that I live in DC, USSS and USCP do make arrests outside of us governement property. Witnessed it first hand. They were felonies but never the less I witnessed it.

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