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    I'm a younger guy, 21, fresh outa college and ready to start my life. I'm going through the hiring process with a few depts. and I'm waiting to see what happens.

    However I've been thinking about the Coast Guard. My friends dad has been in it for years now and it's his career. I was thinking of doing GM. I eventualy want to do more LE type stuff like boarding teams and tactical LE teams. Are thoes jobs hard to come by? Also how do you like the CG?

    Also, whats up with the PS thing. Is that only open to reserves? It web site says that you can make a career out of that. Can you do that full time?

    any help is appeciated. I'll be talking with a recruiter on tuesday.

    thanks
    "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." ~ Romans 13:4

  • #2
    Can you swim, do you get sea sick and are you afraid of big toothy fish?

    You have a degree, go officer. Put in 20 years and then get a Fedaral job.

    I have 23 years Army.

    Kelly

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    • #3
      Hey, I received an e-mail from you a few days ago. I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. If you have your degree and applying with local agencies, I would encourage you to keep up on that.

      As for the Coast Guard, I would reccomend that you enlist in the Coast Guard Reserve if your heart is set on civilian law enforcement. It is a good stepping stone as well as a great way to build contacts with others in the law enforcement community in your area.

      As far as going in as a Port Security Specialist, it is only a reserve rating. Their are oppertunities for active duty assignments (I am a PS2 filling an active duty position) however they are limited and you should only do this if you are intent on staying a reservist. Otherwise, some jobs that you might want to explore are BM, MK, GM, and MST if you are interested in law enforcement (not saying that other ratings don't do LE, just that you might have more oppertunity doing the ones I mentioned).

      I hope all this information helps.

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      • #4
        ...

        the local departments all hold thier exams in my state (NY) (except NYPD) on the same day once every 3 years. So any chance for a local job is about out the window for the time being.

        thanks for the tips. I'm more than likely going to do enlisted if I go for it.

        p.s. and as for the sea sickness, I dont think get it, but I'm use to Lake Erie. I hope the ocean isnt any worse haha.
        Last edited by aikido kid; 06-26-2005, 06:13 PM.
        "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." ~ Romans 13:4

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        • #5
          I thought I could give some insight on the USCG. I decided to join the USCG after college as well (active duty). I became a BM and spent a year doing LE boardings on migrant boats and drug interdiction in the Caribbean. I then spent 5 years at small boat stations in WA and CA doing more LE, but mostly Search and Rescue.

          You asked how hard it was to do boardings/ Taclet teams. Everyone in the USCG can do boardings, even twidgit rates. BM's and MK's do the bulk of LE at small boat stations. GM's do some as well, but on big boats, there are very few LE land billets for GM's. Any rate can be assigned to a Taclet team, but it may take a few years to get there as an active duty member, they don't have reseves.

          As far as the PSU's (they are only reserve), It is not a bad idea as most of the members are full time police officers and do their drill time on the water. They are deployable to the Middle East and Guantanamo Bay. Since the USCG joined the Homeland Security Department in 2002, there are new specialty boat units called MSST's. They do escorts of high profile ships (cruise, ammo, fertilizer, etc.). They have dog teams, vertical insertion teams, a pseudo SWAT position and more.

          I could probably give you very specific answers to any other questions you may have. One last thing, talk to the recruiter, but beware they will play it up and only tell you the good. I will tell you the good, bad and ugly.

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          • #6
            I did 4 years USCG, including plenty of time on a ship. Yes Port Security is on for the reserves. GM is the luck of the draw you may do LE work or you may work at an armory and clean guns all day.
            Last edited by Rolla; 06-27-2005, 04:36 PM.
            "The hardest thing in life is to know which bridge to cross and which one to burn"

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            • #7
              Go officer, not enlisted. Since you will have your degree their is no reason at all to live on the low pay an E-3 makes.
              "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by aikido kid

                any help is appeciated. I'll be talking with a recruiter on tuesday.

                thanks
                Make sure you ask your recruiter how many nights you have to stand "duty" while inport. I have a feeling that in the Coast Guard you have to stay on the ship every third or fourth night while inport.

                I'm not sure how the USCG lets people strike rates. In the Navy if you were an unrated seaman you went to a ship for a while, then took a test to "strike" a rate (job). Some people had trouble getting thier MA rates because of failing the test and had to settle on something else just to advance.

                Obviously ask about the GI bill. Some branches allow you to serve two year plus your training. If you take this two year option you end up serving around 2.5 years and get substantially less in the way of bonuses. In general you are better off taking a three year enlistment.

                Speak with your friend's father about anything the recruiter tells you.

                Thats about all I can think of.
                I know I should feed the trolls but it is just SO hard.

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=Navy Guy]Make sure you ask your recruiter how many nights you have to stand "duty" while inport. I have a feeling that in the Coast Guard you have to stay on the ship every third or fourth night while inport.


                  it depends on what you are on the larger cutters could be every third night but mostly every 4th or 5th night.... on a patrol boat it could be anywhere from every 4th to every 10th night.... I was mostly every 6th night.... as for stations... it was 36hours on 36 off firehouse style.....

                  LE wise.... its a good start..... but the PAY stinks.... but think of the tax brakes.... as a E5 I was only TAXED on 22,000 a year but making almost 45,000.... your food and housing allownce is not taxed.....

                  For me it was a good start.... I'll take my 8 years and roll it over to my current job.... still have to wait to retire but after 22 years i'll have a 30 year pention

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                  • #10
                    I did nine years active duty Army and I think the USCG would be a great idea. I think you would enjoy it.

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                    • #11
                      I spent 5 years on active duty with the Coast Guard as a MK. I was at a small boat station and on a 270 foot cutter. I advise you to go officer and make a career out of it if you're able.

                      If you decide to enlist, It's not a waste of time, but it's hard work. At small boat stations you generally work 70+ hours a week and stand port and starboard section duty. If you're luck you'll have trop hours (0600-1300) so you'll be able to leave on non duty days at 1300. On duty days, we used to work until 2200.

                      MK and BM have the most billets in the coast guard, and GMs don't do near as much as a small arms repairman in say the army or marines. Boarding teams can be comprised of non-rates and petty officers as well as officers.

                      HTH. In my opinion, try to become an officer, do your 20, retire at 41 years old, and then if you still want to do LE, you have that option still without the worry of where your next check is coming from.

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                      • #12
                        Currently Coast Guard Reserve here..its not a bad idea, and looks great on a resume..Just dont carry any of the Coast Guard LE tactics to the street, they will get you seriously injured or killed...The USCG is going through a lot o major changes right now and still trying to defines its role inthis homeland security thing. I was with an MSST last year on active duty for seven months..It wasnt a bad gig..but its not the most exciting either.I just recently got put in a PSU, after a few drills I could fill you in on how it is...The Coast Guard seems to attract a better class of individual then some of the other services..they dont do felony waivers and things of that nature....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 1sgkelly
                          I have 23 years Army.
                          It shows. "Fedaral?" Ugh...

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                          • #14
                            have you spoken to the recruiter yet?

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                            • #15
                              I was disqualified by the armed services, so I joined the Merchant Marine instead. My intention is striving for NYPD harbor and the dive unit, since I am a certified diver as well.

                              No LE experience, but plenty of sea-time acknowledged by the USCG on my Seaman's Papers, plus 'Sea Scouts' as a teenager. I love the water, and being on ships anchored in NY Harbor and seeing the USCG and NYPD boats made my mouth drop.

                              So cool...

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