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  • #16
    I too applied with DPD about 2 years ago and was told that I was unfit because of a misd. Assault charge when I was 18. (8 years ago) Of course they didn't tell me this right off when I first applied an told them about it. It apparently didn't become an issue until I had made it too the background investigation and then I was 'automatically' disqualified because of it. Hmmm thats interesting... their website states that misdemeanors will be look at on an individual basis. Now why would they say that if there are misdemeanors that would automatically disqualify you. If its automatic then its not exactly on an 'individual' basis now is it. I felt that I was a good candidate. I know I'm a little biased but I do have a 4 year degree, a clean background including no drug usage ever, and have done alot of volunteer work all over the country. Unfortunately they wouldn't even investigate the situation... they literally saw that I had put that misd. down and then looked at me and said you are DQed. I responded that I understood that the charge looked bad at first glance but that if they investigated it (called those involved including the individual who I supposedly assualted) I was sure they would find that they had nothing to worry about. This had been done by Colorado Springs Police Department a year earlier and they had found just that. The person interviewing me stated that they wouldn't do that and that I would never be eligible for DPD because of this charge... never... that seems a little harsh for a misd assault charge that you haven't even investigated.

    Now I'm not saying that I hate the DPD. I support every officer who works hard every day for that department and gets very little support from those that they serve. But this recruiting practice is very disheartening to qualified applicants and would seem to be somewhat self defeating.
    Day by Day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny...

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    • #17
      Wannabe...so you looked at "their" website and it states, yes each Misd. will be looked upon on an individual basis...dude...do you not understand that maybe they looked at it, an assualt charge and said "see ya!"? I mean, even though it was a Misd. It's still an assualt charge. But anyway, usually most departments do not DQ you until you get to the Pre-Invest. Stages/ BI. They hardly even look at an application, etc until you meet with your Invest. Which then determines if you are good to move forward. Maybe the day you went there, they had 50 people with the same charges that you had and then DQed them all. And 50 people had no arrest records, etc. Well it would make more sense to take the 50 with no arrest record. Which in the long run saves thier [email protected]@ and yours if it would come to court time and you are being threatened by a defendant stating you beat his [email protected]@ and some hott shot Defense Attorney brings up your arrest record...see my point. It would be in your best interest and the Departments...not to hire you.

      Yeah I know you maybe ****ed off, but hey thats life and you move on and apply elsewhere!
      "An excuse is worse and more terrible than a lie, for an excuse is a lie guarded."

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      • #18
        Irish... When you apply for DPD (at least when I did) you are required to go down to the recruitment building and fill out the paperwork. For me it was a 3x5 card and some other forms including a form that asks if you have ever been arrested. To this I responded yes and gave a brief description of the misd assualt charge (which was dismissed under deferred sentencing by the way and I was never placed in handcuffs it was a appearance summons). When I was finished filing out the forms I handed them to an Officer behind a desk and he looked them over thoroughly, and by thoroughly I mean he took several minutes. At no point did he mention that this was an automatic disqualifier which would be something I would think they would mention. Maybe not... The point you raise about the court issue is actually not an issue which DPD would have realized if they had done the investigation and called those involved which is what a background investigator is supposed to do, which is all I asked of them to do. The individual who i supposedly assaulted actually stated himself to another background investigator that it was taken too far by his parents (he was 16 at the time) and that I didn't assault him. All things that the DPD would have found out if they had done the investigation or at least contacted my BI in Colorado Springs.

        My point in writing wasn't to say that I am bitter at DPD, far from it considering the issues they are going through right now I would say that I am fortunate to have been passed on, but to say that I too had an experience like the one previously posted. I want nothing but good things to happen for that department for the sake of the officers employed there and the citizens served by them. I do however think that they have, at best, some poor policies regarding disqualifiers, and at worst, lazy BI's who look for ways to DQ people without actually having to do their job. I am in the process of completing a police academy in MI and will be applying to other departments very soon. With a little luck I will be an Officer in the state of Michigan at this time next year. I know that there are departments out there that WILL do my background thoroughly and will weigh it fairly and without bias against my fellow applicants and under those conditions I feel strongly that I will be the best candidate... If I didn't feel this way I would not be applying to work in this profession because anything less would be a dishonor to those that have come before me and a disservice to the citizens of whatever area I will be working.

        I know that it will be a hard road, especially with the current job prospects in MI, but I know that this is what I was made to do with my life and I will succeed.
        Day by Day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny...

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        • #19
          Oaky guys DPD is a great department to work for if your looking for a lot of fun and to learn police work fast. The department has a lot of great hard working, self-motivated, aggresive police officers. When your getting on duty and your car is 10-20 runs in the whole it makes for a very fast 8 hr shift going from call to call. On the other hand the city and police admin is running the city and police department into the ground fast. They just laid off apprx 150 police recruits from the academy and may lay off another 600+-certified officers this summer. (that's dating back to guys with all most 10yrs on to job) If and when the city does lay off all the officers the city is going to be crazy! We already have the most homicides in the USA.


          For the people trying to get hired by DPD good luck it's not going to happen for a long time. (save your time and energy) For DPD recruiting I've been there done that and yes race is everything in the city of Detroit don't let anyone tell you different.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jjr1134
            Oaky guys DPD is a great department to work for if your looking for a lot of fun and to learn police work fast. The department has a lot of great hard working, self-motivated, aggresive police officers. When your getting on duty and your car is 10-20 runs in the whole it makes for a very fast 8 hr shift going from call to call. On the other hand the city and police admin is running the city and police department into the ground fast. They just laid off apprx 150 police recruits from the academy and may lay off another 600+-certified officers this summer. (that's dating back to guys with all most 10yrs on to job) If and when the city does lay off all the officers the city is going to be crazy! We already have the most homicides in the USA.


            For the people trying to get hired by DPD good luck it's not going to happen for a long time. (save your time and energy) For DPD recruiting I've been there done that and yes race is everything in the city of Detroit don't let anyone tell you different.
            1134, Any idea when Kwame's term is up? I read he went from a suplus in the tens of millions to a deficit nearing 300 million. Also, you're an officer in Detroit, right? Any idea why the recruiting office is "still recruiting but not actively hiring"? I can understand the concept of an eligibilty list, but what's the point when there's a slim chance of hiring officers in the next 3 years?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Serpico
              1134, Any idea when Kwame's term is up? I read he went from a suplus in the tens of millions to a deficit nearing 300 million. Also, you're an officer in Detroit, right? Any idea why the recruiting office is "still recruiting but not actively hiring"? I can understand the concept of an eligibilty list, but what's the point when there's a slim chance of hiring officers in the next 3 years?

              Serpico,

              I can't tell you why the recruiting office is still working.. I guess all I can tell you is that's just one thing that shows people how the city waste money. The recruiting lazy asses should be pushed back onto the street and into a scout working the prct taking police runs. Thats just my .02.

              On Kwame he has killed this city............

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              • #22
                You and I both know it is the voters that killed that city and it has been dying for quite some time. Kwame is just a symptom of a much bigger problem in Motor City. I give you huge props for not pulling up and going to another city but I'm not sure if your dedicated or just plain crazy. as close as I ever get anymore is going to some of the pubs near the casinos with my sister and her husband.

                Originally posted by jjr1134
                On Kwame he has killed this city............
                "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

                For California police academy notes go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CABasicPolice/

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                  • #24
                    Hard to clean from the bottom up. You must wash that city top down.
                    "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

                    For California police academy notes go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CABasicPolice/

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SWATdude170
                      I gotta message for Mayor Kilpatrick.Super Bowl? Lets focus our money on cleaning up this hell hole!Murders,rapes,thefts,and assualts are through the roof! The reason why I wanted to join the DPD was the HUGE amount of corruption this place has.The men and women of the DPD arent doing enough to help Detroit.The citizens hate the DPD,the DPD isnt community freindly,it should be more freindly to the citizens so freindly that you can walk up to an officer and say what up Jen? or what happenin' Tyler?So mayor,lets restore this dump to its glory days.


                      This **** is bananas B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
                      Swatdude,

                      First have you ever gone up to a police officer in the city of detriot and tryed to talk to one? I would say you haven't.

                      second corription? If you haven't ever taken a police run in the city of Detroit you can't ever talk **** about it's officers that are anwsering them. Remember you sleep at night because of the blanket of security that I provide you with. (if you live in detroit like you say)

                      Third community friendly? Once again you have never been behind the wheel of a DPD scout car or placed that badge on your chest and answered a police run. So, you don't know what some citizens of this fine city do or say to us while we wear that badge.....

                      As for the officers not doing enough for the city.... You lost me on this one because officers can only do what the administration lets us do.

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                      • #26
                        Detroits Police problems started a long time ago. I don't know if Coleman Young was the first problem, but he was certainly the biggest. Kwame is just the latest.

                        You have a city council that thinks they need to get paid like senators, a mayor that thinks he needs to be treated like a superstar, government officials who in similar cities work like normal people but in Detroit get Police bodyguards, and several previous police chiefs that somehow managed to amass personal fortunes while on the job.

                        I think the new police chief is doing a hell of a job from what I read, but she is not being given the kind of support she needs from the mayor and city council. The Stations in detroit are falling apart, some being cited by the EPA. They had to close the indoor handgun range because bullets were going thru the walls and out into the street!

                        So, this week the city council will call the mayors bluff and try to over-ride his veto of the city budget. If they do, 600 officer will be laid of on July 1st.
                        The international fireworks show will be cancelled because there won't be enough officers to cover the event.

                        I mean, where does it stop?
                        Though their numbers are many, as the grass upon the field, we will count them at the end of the day.

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