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    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Just a few quick questions here, and I'll preface it with a few things about myself. I have been in law enforcement for several years. I have part time evidence custodian experience, doing applicant background checks, neighborhood watch/community relations, have been in an OIS, have a bachelor's in history with a 3.4 GPA in History from Auburn University. I did a State Level LE internship in college, and well...blah blah.


    I've been thinking about "trying" to get into the US Federal intelligence community in the next few years sworn or unsworn, cubicle job or not.

    My question is, is my experience relevant or at least relatable as a street cop? Have I set my future career in gear as a LEO type and not an intelligence gig?

    I plan on getting a masters degree to beef up my international perspective (which in my career I have learned nothing about), but will that even make a difference?

    Just looking for guidance by folks who have been around the block for a while and could pass on some knowledge. I have a knack for research but also don't mind the gunslinging portion of my current job.

    I guess you can frame any career advice this way: I'm kind of sick of being a slave to the radio and dealing with dumb people. I think you coppers will know what I mean. Travel and the ability to move around is something I'm really wanting to do.

    Thanks for any and all advice.
    Last edited by rms0012; 07-24-2016, 10:08 PM.

  • #2
    Any analyst time? HUMINT, JTTF, TF, White Collar, Gang, OC investigatory experience?
    MIL overseas Intel time?

    You are a very mediocre candidate.
    Now go home and get your shine box!

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    • #3
      Intelligence Analyst with the FBI is a good place to start. They hire at entry level GS-7 (bachelor's degree with SAA).

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
        Any analyst time? HUMINT, JTTF, TF, White Collar, Gang, OC investigatory experience?
        MIL overseas Intel time?

        You are a very mediocre candidate.
        Probably would have put it if I had it. Thanks for the advice Bliskin.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rms0012 View Post
          Ladies and Gentlemen,

          Just a few quick questions here, and I'll preface it with a few things about myself. I have been in law enforcement for several years. I have part time evidence custodian experience, doing applicant background checks, neighborhood watch/community relations, have been in an OIS, have a bachelor's in history with a 3.4 GPA in History from Auburn University. I did a State Level LE internship in college, and well...blah blah.


          I've been thinking about "trying" to get into the US Federal intelligence community in the next few years sworn or unsworn, cubicle job or not.

          My question is, is my experience relevant or at least relatable as a street cop? Have I set my future career in gear as a LEO type and not an intelligence gig?

          I plan on getting a masters degree to beef up my international perspective (which in my career I have learned nothing about), but will that even make a difference?

          Just looking for guidance by folks who have been around the block for a while and could pass on some knowledge. I have a knack for research but also don't mind the gunslinging portion of my current job.

          I guess you can frame any career advice this way: I'm kind of sick of being a slave to the radio and dealing with dumb people. I think you coppers will know what I mean. Travel and the ability to move around is something I'm really wanting to do.

          Thanks for any and all advice.
          Planning on getting a master's and actually having one are two completely different things. No employer has ever hired someone on the double pinky promise that once they are brought on they will go get a master's. Not trying to be a jerk face but CCCSD is right. Moreover, do you think the intelligence community is any less infected with dumb people than law enforcement? Dumb dumbs are everywhere you go, this is especially true in the federal government. Honestly most guys in the fed will tell you, we wonder how system stays afloat based on how poorly it is ran.

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          • #6
            rms0012,

            I worked with someone in local law enforcement who left to become an FBI Investigative Specialist. From what they could tell me, it is an intelligence job that involves a lot of work that they can't talk about.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the advice guys!

              It wasn't something I was dead set on, but I'm just looking to explore options past my local gig in the next few years. I totally get the "double pink promise" masters degree logic. What I am taking from this is that generally they are looking for more directly relevant experience. Given the thousands of applications they receive, I'm sure they have that luxury. I understand that as well. Just exploring my options, and this one seems a little more distant than I presumed.

              However I doubt an intelligence analyst deals with the type of people we as street cops deal with on a daily basis because of the different nature of the businesses. Its not that I even hate LE, even local LE that much. Just looking at what's available to take my career and interests forward.

              Thanks again.

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              • #8
                Working Intel is the same as conducting a lengthy fiduciary investigation. If people can't understand that, they are so far behind the curve that they'll never catch up.

                You aren't going to be Jack Bauer.
                Now go home and get your shine box!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CCCSD View Post
                  Working Intel is the same as conducting a lengthy fiduciary investigation. If people can't understand that, they are so far behind the curve that they'll never catch up.

                  You aren't going to be Jack Bauer.
                  Isn't Jack Bauer from TV?

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                  • #10
                    You are a very mediocre candidate.
                    I would disagree. There are a lot of people in that world with a lot thinner backgrounds....

                    Here's the deal: it's largely a roll of the dice if your grand plan is going to work out, depending on many factors you have little control over. But one thing is for sure- if you don't try, then the odds are 100% it won't happen.
                    People get on, people get off, but the train never stops.

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                    • #11
                      No Intel background. Nothing LE related to analysis, nothing. And if that's the standard, no wonder we are so far behind the curve.
                      Now go home and get your shine box!

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                      • #12
                        CCCSD,

                        I can't believe you write to fellow officers asking for career advice this way. I'm not going to get into a ****ing match with you, your 9,103 posts ensure you'll win.

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                        • #13
                          Do you have any mil time? If I were you, I would pick up an intel job in the huard/reserves to boost your resume. The Feds will hire kids right out of college, so you can't really predict their hiring patterns. Good luck bro, dont be dissuaded from applying for ANY position.

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                          • #14
                            No Intel background. Nothing LE related to analysis, nothing. And if that's the standard, no wonder we are so far behind the curve.
                            rms0012 isn't not looking for advice on getting a Deputy Assistant Director of Intel job. He's looking for advice on career change.

                            People have varied backgrounds. I know a guy in that world who started as out as a social worker, became an 1811, then went to the intel side.

                            Point I'm trying to make is doors open, and doors close. Just like anything in life, half of it is timing and luck.

                            And just like anything you read on this site, take half of it with a grain of salt.
                            People get on, people get off, but the train never stops.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rms0012 View Post
                              Ladies and Gentlemen,

                              Just a few quick questions here, and I'll preface it with a few things about myself. I have been in law enforcement for several years. I have part time evidence custodian experience, doing applicant background checks, neighborhood watch/community relations, have been in an OIS, have a bachelor's in history with a 3.4 GPA in History from Auburn University. I did a State Level LE internship in college, and well...blah blah.


                              I've been thinking about "trying" to get into the US Federal intelligence community in the next few years sworn or unsworn, cubicle job or not.

                              My question is, is my experience relevant or at least relatable as a street cop? Have I set my future career in gear as a LEO type and not an intelligence gig?

                              I plan on getting a masters degree to beef up my international perspective (which in my career I have learned nothing about), but will that even make a difference?

                              Just looking for guidance by folks who have been around the block for a while and could pass on some knowledge. I have a knack for research but also don't mind the gunslinging portion of my current job.

                              I guess you can frame any career advice this way: I'm kind of sick of being a slave to the radio and dealing with dumb people. I think you coppers will know what I mean. Travel and the ability to move around is something I'm really wanting to do.

                              Thanks for any and all advice.
                              I've been an intel officer for the past four years. I'm on the .mil side myself, but I've worked quite a bit with DHS/DOJ intel folks. Its hard to give a general description of the job that's standard across all agencies. Each agency has a different role, and every intelligence discipline has its own quirks. The only things I'd say that come standard across the board are 1) spending a lot of time in windowless buildings, 2) doing lots of analysis and research, 3) oversight and compliance regulations, and 4) lots of public speaking/briefing. Hope that helps.

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