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Last edited by UCLA1998; 05-01-2016, 11:40 AM.
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Originally posted by UCLA1998 View PostI was with FAMS for 4 years and I saw BOTH qualified and unqualified MALES and FEMALES. FAMS is exempted services, just like the FBI, DEA, DIA, CIA, NSA, and etc. Which means they don't have to justify jack. They select who the want and quite frankly they do a good job. FAMS doesn't and won't release any hiring information because its a intelligence agency (classified as one). My class was very diverse. We had vets, non-vets, former TSA, former cops, kids out of college, and former fed. We also had a equal amount of racial demographics (which is rare). Bottomline, if you don't get in you don't get in. Thats how it goes. This fed thing is all about luck and right place at the right time. IMO you don't have to be a super trooper, former ranger (RLTW by the way), cop, have a masters degree, or be a super human JUST to sit on a plane. Lets get off this"i feel I'm more qualified s**t, because at the end of the day you don't determine how qualified you really are. By the way you are ranked as Best Qualified, Well Qualified, Qualified, and Un Qualified. I was on a panel and thats how it was. The only way a lower category jumps a higher category is when there are no more applicants in the higher category. So if there are best qualified folks still in the hiring pool, they will be selected first.
see, that's exactly how it makes sense. They accept who they want and need. Wise words thanks for the knowledge.
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Originally posted by ShockTroopDevilDog View Postsee, that's exactly how it makes sense. They accept who they want and need. Wise words thanks for the knowledge.
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Originally posted by MrBoombastic View PostSup ranger! Class 02-06 here. Spent my time in Benning & Bragg LRS mostly. How about yourself? Few scrolls and tabs at the ATL FO. I hope to be in good company.We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.
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It doesn't matter what the hiring panel decision is. All that means is that you get referred from the field office to HQ. Like you said its all about luck. You go into the black whole at HQ and maybe get picked maybe you don't. I lucked out quite a few years ago and got picked. All I'm saying is they don't purely go for the best qualified, especially not anymore when their own hiring announcement says females desired. Ethically they have a fiduciary responsibility to the American people to hire the people that they believe will most likely be able to pass the academy and be the best fit for the job. But they clearly violate that responsibility in an effort to make the agency more in line with equal opportunity guidelines. Yes the FAMS is excepted service and the whole point of excepted service is to streamline the hiring process and get people they need for the position. Focusing on making your hiring decisions more EO related vs qualification related defeats the entire purpose of excepted service and is a clear violation of federal regulations. If only 5% of overall applicants are female then only 5% of overall applicants hired should be female within a small deviation plus or minus. Same goes for any ethnic group.
In case any of you missed this article when the first posting came out.
https://www.fleoa.org/news-story.aspx?id=5608
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Originally posted by NCOForever View PostIt doesn't matter what the hiring panel decision is. All that means is that you get referred from the field office to HQ. Like you said its all about luck. You go into the black whole at HQ and maybe get picked maybe you don't. I lucked out quite a few years ago and got picked. All I'm saying is they don't purely go for the best qualified, especially not anymore when their own hiring announcement says females desired. Ethically they have a fiduciary responsibility to the American people to hire the people that they believe will most likely be able to pass the academy and be the best fit for the job. But they clearly violate that responsibility in an effort to make the agency more in line with equal opportunity guidelines. Yes the FAMS is excepted service and the whole point of excepted service is to streamline the hiring process and get people they need for the position. Focusing on making your hiring decisions more EO related vs qualification related defeats the entire purpose of excepted service and is a clear violation of federal regulations. If only 5% of overall applicants are female then only 5% of overall applicants hired should be female within a small deviation plus or minus. Same goes for any ethnic group.
In case any of you missed this article when the first posting came out.
https://www.fleoa.org/news-story.aspx?id=5608Last edited by UCLA1998; 05-02-2016, 11:01 AM.
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Originally posted by UCLA1998 View PostThe panel does matter. Your ranking as best qualified matters.
They seemed to be hiring whoever the hell they wanted with no rhyme or reason and the candidates that did make it thru training showed that that HR/Management likes to use a dart board at times to figure out who to hire. As some made no sense and didn't last long for various reasons.
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I just got a phone call from FAM personal, stating that they will be making selection decisions mid-May... I thought that's kinda odd, concidering they normally just update via dashboard and don't make phone calls... Been sitting at star over refered for selection since March 22... Anyone else get a phone call like that?
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Originally posted by That1guy81 View PostI just got a phone call from FAM personal, stating that they will be making selection decisions mid-May... I thought that's kinda odd, concidering they normally just update via dashboard and don't make phone calls... Been sitting at star over refered for selection since March 22... Anyone else get a phone call like that?
Are you still part of the first announcement? I've been waiting since March 25 on referred. Seems like people from the first announcement have already gotten calls. I'm just hoping I hear back soon.
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Originally posted by Figureout18 View PostAre you still part of the first announcement? I've been waiting since March 25 on referred. Seems like people from the first announcement have already gotten calls. I'm just hoping I hear back soon.
I'm unsure if 1st announcement or not... Vet pref, and application recieved Jan 13... Unsure how people are determining first announcement
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