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  • JV09
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    Did anyone apply to the Central District of California USPO position that was recently active? I took the written about 2 weeks ago, but haven't heard anything since then. Kind of concerned since it appears the process moves along fairly quickly.

    I have about 4 years of county level probation experience, a graduate degree, and prior military. Not sure if VA preference is even given, but at this point I'm thinking anything helps since these positions seem to be very competitive. Just wondering if anyone else has any insight regarding the hiring process at this district.

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  • holycrikey
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    Figured I'd post in here. I recently accepted a USPO position, will start here in a few weeks. Anyone having questions can feel free to PM me anything related to applications/interviewing/etc. Obviously I don't know much of anything regarding the actual job duties yet.

    I come from state probation, btw.

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  • brownj21
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    Originally posted by GA12 View Post
    USPO's do field work but you won't be busting down doors or chasing anyone. The use of force policy is purely defensive when safe retreat is not an option. We carry weapons but most of our work is done in front of a computer. Good job but if you are more aligned with purely LE work I'd pursue a uniform position as you might get bored with US Probation.
    Originally posted by Nola504 View Post
    I'm also a current USPO and can second what brownj21 and GA12 are saying. They are spot on. Really understand that this is NOT your typical law enforcement career where you are very active in the streets. Probation across the board from the county, state, and local level, including federal have shifted toward a different mentality in handling offenders. The focus is more on rehabilitation and locking up offenders anymore. Overall, you are looked at as more of a social worker/counselor with a badge and gun with no real authority.
    Agreed 100%.

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  • Nola504
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    I'm also a current USPO and can second what brownj21 and GA12 are saying. They are spot on. Really understand that this is NOT your typical law enforcement career where you are very active in the streets. Probation across the board from the county, state, and local level, including federal have shifted toward a different mentality in handling offenders. The focus is more on rehabilitation and locking up offenders anymore. Overall, you are looked at as more of a social worker/counselor with a badge and gun with no real authority.

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  • GA12
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    Originally posted by TopGun87 View Post
    @satxparoleofcr - Do US Probation Officers have the authority to carry weapons or make arrests. Do they serve on fugitive task force like some state PO's or is it primarily court-based with not that much action?

    Thanks,
    USPO's do field work but you won't be busting down doors or chasing anyone. The use of force policy is purely defensive when safe retreat is not an option. We carry weapons but most of our work is done in front of a computer. Good job but if you are more aligned with purely LE work I'd pursue a uniform position as you might get bored with US Probation.

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  • brownj21
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    Originally posted by PaPPO View Post
    I think it varies depending on what district. It's my understanding that some are more pro law enforcement, while others are more paper pushers? I could be completely off but just what I've heard from talking with a few officers.
    This is pretty accurate. Everything varies by district.

    Originally posted by TheKansan View Post
    I was under the impression that the US Marshals do the majority of the enforcement work for US Probation, but that Probation/Pre-trial Services Officers are considered federal LEOs

    I have read that they receive some regular law enforcement training and attend FLETC. Do they have to qualify with firearms, and have badges/credentials? Are they issued weapons, or was it like the BOP, where you were only given a weapon from the armory if they saw fit, and in your personal time you carry your own private weapon?
    In many districts the US Marshals serve the warrants issued by USPOs. And yes, USPOs are considered federal law enforcement.
    Yes, all officers attend FLETC (Charleston, not Glynco) and qualify with firearms and are issued badges, credentials.
    Last edited by brownj21; 01-31-2014, 01:58 AM.

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  • TheKansan
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    I was under the impression that the US Marshals do the majority of the enforcement work for US Probation, but that Probation/Pre-trial Services Officers are considered federal LEOs

    I have read that they receive some regular law enforcement training and attend FLETC. Do they have to qualify with firearms, and have badges/credentials? Are they issued weapons, or was it like the BOP, where you were only given a weapon from the armory if they saw fit, and in your personal time you carry your own private weapon?

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  • PaPPO
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    I think it varies depending on what district. It's my understanding that some are more pro law enforcement, while others are more paper pushers? I could be completely off but just what I've heard from talking with a few officers.

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  • satxparoleofcr
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    Originally posted by TopGun87 View Post
    @satxparoleofcr - Do US Probation Officers have the authority to carry weapons or make arrests. Do they serve on fugitive task force like some state PO's or is it primarily court-based with not that much action?

    Thanks,
    I sent you a PM

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  • TopGun87
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    Originally posted by satxparoleofcr View Post
    I'm a current USPO. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
    @satxparoleofcr - Do US Probation Officers have the authority to carry weapons or make arrests. Do they serve on fugitive task force like some state PO's or is it primarily court-based with not that much action?

    Thanks,

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  • NJturnedDC
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    Thank you Hangman, I never realized so many agencies were under excepted service

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  • hangman
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    Originally posted by NJturnedDC View Post
    Hello All,
    I have been researching these positions for a couple of weeks now and I seen these are "at will" positions which makes me nervous. Can anyone tell me if this is something that is enforced or if you are coming from another position that is permanent you remain permanent?
    US Courts, FBI, CIA, Dept of State, NCIS, Secret Service, Air Marshals and a few others are excepted service agencies, which basically means they don't have to follow the Office of Personnel Management's rules in regards to hiring, termination, etc. They have their own rules.

    It doesn't matter what position you are coming from, if you take a job with one of those agencies, you better cross your t's and dot your i's...if you know what I mean.

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  • Wall_Street
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    @Albert

    I also applied for this position. Have you heard anything?

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  • NJturnedDC
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    Hello All,
    I have been researching these positions for a couple of weeks now and I seen these are "at will" positions which makes me nervous. Can anyone tell me if this is something that is enforced or if you are coming from another position that is permanent you remain permanent?

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  • NJturnedDC
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    Do certain districts make exceptions and accept police work as experience?

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