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  • 20NOutLife
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    I guess I have to decline the job offer. just wondering if there's a way to deferred it for 6 months to maybe a year so I can gathered more information on the specific on the job, like pay increment, health benefits, work schedule, etc. don't wanna look back and regret this in 5 years though because I let it slip away.

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  • dsb05c
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    Some district do have crazy rules. I have tried to explain to my wife that US Probation is odd in that each district is very different from others. Transferring from one to the other isn't the same as an FBI moving field offices. Have heard some districts that don't allow field visits after 5 pm. Mine wants to know why you are not working in the evenings. Yeah, last weekend I had an EM alert at 3 am. That case will be the death of me. We had two Sr. USPO's (now retired) who came from NCIS (or NIS as it was called then) because they were tired of moving. Went through FLETC with someone who came from NCIS. Same story, spouse didn't want to go OCONUS. Occasionally we will get someone who used to work for US Attys Office.

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  • brownj21
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    Originally posted by dsb05c View Post
    I meant coming from other federal agencies. Yeah I left my state because it was a joke what they pay their officers. We really have dropped off on hiring state PO's are getting more people from other federal agencies. There are a couple states that pay more (heard some NE states but I live in the south). My state hasn't raised their probation employee pay (I'm including cost of living much and not just a step increase) in over a decade. I don't know how they stay afloat.

    What is attractive to me is the LEAP pay 1811's get that probation officers don't get. Even though I was out in the field until 10 pm last night and back at it at 8:30 this morning.

    10-4, I gotcha. I don't personally know any federal agent that would trade their position for mine, even if the pay was the same. I have been personally told by FBI, US Marshals, ATF, DEA, and others that USPO is the worst position in federal law enforcement. Keep in mind that these fellas are referring to my district when they say that (and all the strict rules that we must abide by).

    I dont understand no LEAP pay for USPOs either. All of our supervision officers get calls, LM alerts, and so on in the middle of the night that REQUIRE a response. That alone should qualify them for LEAP. Not to mention late night field hours.

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  • dsb05c
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    I meant coming from other federal agencies. Yeah I left my state because it was a joke what they pay their officers. We really have dropped off on hiring state PO's are getting more people from other federal agencies. There are a couple states that pay more (heard some NE states but I live in the south). My state hasn't raised their probation employee pay (I'm including cost of living much and not just a step increase) in over a decade. I don't know how they stay afloat.

    What is attractive to me is the LEAP pay 1811's get that probation officers don't get. Even though I was out in the field until 10 pm last night and back at it at 8:30 this morning.

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  • brownj21
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    Originally posted by holycrikey View Post
    It should be completely at the discretion of each district. I can tell you in my neck of the woods, overtime is impossible. You'll receive comp time that can be accrued up to 40 hours per year (my local policy). I have yet to encounter a district that looks in any way favorably towards overtime. Maybe some other districts can chime in.
    Based on my interaction with other USPOs in the country, overtime is very rare.
    No comp time in my district either, by the way.

    Originally posted by dsb05c View Post
    I have used comp time only once in my 6.5 years and it was one day for travel last fall when I traveled to and from FLETC. I may flex a few hours here or there but usually will only flex an hour for any 3 I work over. Usually end the week with 45-50 hours not including hours I work at home. But I have the flexibility to make my own schedule. People choose probation for the scheduling flexibility. Not because of the pay.
    In my district, it is very much the opposite. I (along with just about every officer in my district) left a lower paying state position for the higher pay. I know that I personally had a LOT more freedom, flexibility, and so on in my previous job than I do now. But again, all of these factors/benefits vary from district to district.

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  • brownj21
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    Originally posted by GBP_12 View Post
    Thanks, brown & jdg, I appreciate it.

    I just got word that I will be doing a facetime/skipe interview on 1 May. I guess I passed the written. So far I am blown away with the process for the position, unlike anything I've ever encountered. This whole teleinterview thing is a little different too. I wish more agencies were this accommodating, I'm liking them more and more.

    Any tips for the interview?
    WOW. Our district would NEVER do skype/facetime interviews. NEVER. EVER. That's incredible.

    Originally posted by Nola504 View Post
    Work from home as much as I want. I work in presentence 7am-4:30 and every payday Friday off
    That is incredible as well....I WISH. What district?

    Originally posted by 20NOutLife View Post
    hi everybody, ive been researching and I cant seem to find the actual payscale for USPO. I know its starts at gl 25- gl27 and gl28 is considered a specialist. But on the uscourt.gov, it only gives the pay structure for gl 25-gl 26 under LEO pay. How is the progression work, starts off at gl 25, then after one year to gl 26 and then another yr to gl 27 and then competitive promotion to SPECIALIST/ GL28? It just a little confusing. Thanks for any help.
    The pay scale is INCREDIBLY confusing. I've been employed almost 5 years and have yet to understand it, or find someone (even in HR) who really can.

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  • dsb05c
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    No problem. Yeah, getting a foot in the door would be a big help. Plus may let them feel easier promoting you to a poa if they have seen you work and know if the medical condition would be an issue. Good luck.

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  • madoc1203
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    Dsb05c,

    Thank you so much for your response. I guess it is worth a shot, anyhow I will never know unless I try. Additionally I applied and have an interview on the 8th of this month for a Probation Services Clerk position in the US Probation Office for the District of MA. I realize that position is not a law enforcement position but hopefully it might make it easier to become a POA one day. Thank you so much again for your help.

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  • dsb05c
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    Former POA here. POAs do not go to FLETC but do have their district trainings they may be required to attend.

    Madoc, POAs do not carry firearms but do get high risk LE pay and retirement. Some POAs have contact with offenders and my district requires they participate in the safety program (mattroom and scenario). The district's HR would have more info on that. I will tell you, they delayed me twice to get medical follow ups for an abnormal ekg (enlarged heart) and possible (didn't have it) sleep apnea. But some districts may work with you depending on the type of position it is. If you are mostly writing reports and limited contact with offenders, it may not be an issue.

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  • madoc1203
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    Hello Everyone,

    First I just want thank everyone who has commented on this thread in the past as it has been very informative. So my question is in regards to medical standards for Probation Officer Assistants. I recently have applied for a couple POA positions but I maybe wasting my time as I have a very mild form of cerebral palsy. I can still walk/run and do everything else however the CP has affected my balance. (Basically I can't balance using just my right foot.) It is my understanding that cerebral palsy is one of the possible disqualifying conditions. Please correct me if I am wrong but it is understanding that generally POA's do not attend FLETC and are not armed, so I am hoping there maybe so wiggle room.
    So my basic question is this does anyone know if I will be required to stand on one leg during the medical exam to become a POA?

    Thank you so much for your help in advance.

    Also just a little bit of background on me: I have BA in Political Science and I am working on getting my masters. I currently work for the MA DOC as a clerk in medium security prison.

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  • Sed1350
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    Poa

    I am starting a POA position in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know if there is any kind of training we are sent to?? Any advice for POA would be great (:

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  • NJturnedDC
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    Anyone have any info on the eastern NC District? If so I would love to pm and talk

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  • 20NOutLife
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    Originally posted by PSOSAC View Post
    Sounds like you are going to take a MAJOR pay cut if you come to the feds. Just make sure you dont wait too long. Have to be sworn in by 37 or you turn into a pumpkin.
    Oh yeah. I forgot the age limit. hehe, if i wait till 37, might as well do the last 3yrs and retire at 40. =), Pay cut isnt a major concern because quality of life wins all the time. I'm just doing a cost comparison of health insurance, pension fees, prescription, etc.

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  • PSOSAC
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    Sounds like you are going to take a MAJOR pay cut if you come to the feds. Just make sure you dont wait too long. Have to be sworn in by 37 or you turn into a pumpkin.

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  • 20NOutLife
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    Originally posted by jdg0044 View Post
    What is your current position? I think you'll find that USPO is a pretty well-paid position compared to most state or local agencies.
    That's what I'm interested in, the quality of life and peace of mind. My salary now is roughly 108k But money isn't everything. The flexibility of scheduling is trully attractive. I'm an officer for my local correction dept. Even though I can retire at 40, that's still young, and I wouldn't mind working till 50. Another reason I wouldn't mind leaving for US probation. Thank you for your insight

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