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  • Departments Hiring With No Polygraph. I'm Tired of Unreliable Machines!

    IF THIS THREAD IS IN THE WRONG SECTION, MY APOLOGIES.

    Hello everyone, I'm still pretty new to the site but It's always had a life long dream of becoming a police officer. I have taken 3 polygraph exams for 3 separate departments and I've passed 2 and failed one. I just want to say this to get this out of the way, I'm not one of those people who are hiding something or that is looking to get in the easy way! I answered every question honestly on all 3 tests and never tried any type of drug in my life time. I just want to apply somewhere without a polygraph because I just view those machines as completely unreliable and inaccurate. I don't feel like being turned down for a job because a polygraph misread one of my replies, it really is disheartening. I know this question has been asked before but I don't think it has been asked recently, so perhaps there might be more departments hiring at the minute. So with all this out of the way:

    Does anyone know of any departments hiring presently that do not polygraph?

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    Most agencies use polygraphs to DQ applicants. It is quite a deterrent for bad guys looking to get onto a department. Read up on the LAPD Rampart scandal from the 90s and you'll have a better understanding.

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    • #3
      VA Police do not use Polys...... but we DO have MBI's, which is a pretty in-depth background check.

      OP, I'm not sure what your issue is, though. I cannot stand polys and also think they are inaccurate (Hence they are not admitted in court.) However, as mentioned before, agencies use them as investigative tools. And the bottom line is that most departments use them; get used to that fact. You said that you passed 2 and only failed once. (I'm assuming out of nerves or something.) If that one setback has you all flustered about the process, then you better dig deeper and get used to disappointment. Just wait until you're actually interviewed for your B.I., and all your little and big skeletons have to come out....... Just keep trying and don't sweat one failure.
      Just another squirrel, tryin' to get a nut......

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      • #4
        Originally posted by QuietPro View Post
        VA Police do not use Polys...... but we DO have MBI's, which is a pretty in-depth background check.

        OP, I'm not sure what your issue is, though. I cannot stand polys and also think they are inaccurate (Hence they are not admitted in court.) However, as mentioned before, agencies use them as investigative tools. And the bottom line is that most departments use them; get used to that fact. You said that you passed 2 and only failed once. (I'm assuming out of nerves or something.) If that one setback has you all flustered about the process, then you better dig deeper and get used to disappointment. Just wait until you're actually interviewed for your B.I., and all your little and big skeletons have to come out....... Just keep trying and don't sweat one failure.
        Hey Quiet, thanks for the reply. I know that most agencies do polygraph, I was just frustrated at a no where close to perfect technology denying me a chance of a job. Na, not hiding anything at all but as you said it was likely nerves that made me fail the exam that day. Thanks for the reply, all the best.

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        • #5
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          Last edited by FTRthnU; 04-18-2012, 07:23 PM.

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          • #6
            There has to be a reason the 2 you passed didn't hire you. May be the reason why the one you failed didn't.

            I did a VSA (voice stress test) and it did mess up. It said I lied about me stating i've never stolen any merchandise. YET I was asked if I answered my written questions (same questions) honestly and answered all verbal questions honestly I said Yes .. it said I was telling the truth. So it pretty much said I lied but told the truth.... I have never ever stolen anything. My mom would have straight up beaten me.
            BUT I was passed... and hired...

            Honestly, I would look into why you weren't hired in the first place instead of blaming a test. There has to be a legit reason.

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            • #7
              I don't feel like being turned down for a job because a polygraph misread one of my replies, it really is disheartening.
              If you are going to be hired into a LE position you will have to get used to disappointment. Very few people get hired by their first choice.

              However, the ones that have the best chance of being hired are those that apply to every opening, regardless of a poly or not.

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              • #8
                Voodoo Science screwing up good folks from being hired...... Nothing more/nothing less.

                Good for investigations...? Perhaps...

                Good for BI's....? Nope....

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                • #9
                  I personally know 2 folks who initially failed the poly, but got hired anyway. Both due to the same issue. Discussion with the BI and the poly examiner cleared things up.
                  Getting shot hurts! Don't under estimate the power of live ammo. A .22LR can kill you! I personally feel that it's best to avoid being shot by any caliber. Your vest may stop the bullet, but you'll still get a nice bruise or other injury to remember the experience.

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                  • #10
                    MN does not have poly, but our field is FLOODED with applicants.
                    The views expressed in the above post are the sole opinion of the author and do not reflect any official position by the author's employer and/or municipality.

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                    • #11
                      OP, you made no mention of where you wish to work, you looking to apply anywhere in the U.S., in a specific state, in a specific region of a state, etc?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by irish_in_ny View Post
                        IF THIS THREAD IS IN THE WRONG SECTION, MY APOLOGIES.

                        Hello everyone, I'm still pretty new to the site but It's always had a life long dream of becoming a police officer. I have taken 3 polygraph exams for 3 separate departments and I've passed 2 and failed one. I just want to say this to get this out of the way, I'm not one of those people who are hiding something or that is looking to get in the easy way! I answered every question honestly on all 3 tests and never tried any type of drug in my life time. I just want to apply somewhere without a polygraph because I just view those machines as completely unreliable and inaccurate. I don't feel like being turned down for a job because a polygraph misread one of my replies, it really is disheartening. I know this question has been asked before but I don't think it has been asked recently, so perhaps there might be more departments hiring at the minute. So with all this out of the way:

                        Does anyone know of any departments hiring presently that do not polygraph?
                        Michigan State Police is currently hiring. I do not know of any departments in Michigan that poly.

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                        • #13
                          Poly's are just a tool in the investigative tool box... I've seen terrorists pass a poly who were complete turds and proved it in the long run. Again, great tool but not 100%.

                          US Park Police doesn't have a poly, but won't hire again probably until next year.

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                          • #14
                            Polygraphs are illegal for use during hiring processes in Massachusetts, to include hiring for any LEO positions.

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                            • #15
                              My department is hiring and doesn't use poly's....but you'd have to sit in the jail for about a decade or so....

                              And really? Only 3 departments?? Put on your big-boy pants cause, in this market, you could have to apply for DOZENS before getting hired - so get used to rejection.....
                              Originally posted by RSGSRT
                              We've reached a point where natural selection doesn't have a chance in hell of keeping up with the procreation of imbeciles.
                              Why is it acceptable for you to be an idiot, but not acceptable for me to point it out?

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