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    Does anybody have information on Entry Level State Criminal Investigator jobs? Obviously, there are many entry level opportunities at the Federal Level, but I have never seen a State opportunity.

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    FDLE hires occasionally if you are already certified and have a BA then you can get on with them with limited experience. As of right now, there are so many looking that its tough to get on without any prior time because of the competition. A lot like the federal level...

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    • #3
      Usually, state CID agents come from other state agencies from my experience. Here, in Arkansas, ASP CID agents were almost always highway troopers. A few have been hired straight into that, but I suspect that involves a lot of politics.

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      • #4
        Take a Look At California

        California has them all the time, however, with our budget crisis vacancies are becoming less frequent. They range from Special Agent positions with the Department of Justice, to Investigator Slots with the Fraud Bureau of the Department of Insurance, or Alcoholic Beverage Control, Department of Consumer Affairs, Medical Quality Insurance Board, Horse Racing Board, Department of Corporations,.the list goes on and on.

        Minimum requirements for each position will vary from agency to agency. You just have to check as the positions come available.

        http://jobs.ca.gov/CASPB/sup/images/...Type=&Search=Y
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        • #5
          I read that Jerry Brown is trying to lay off something like over 170 California Department of Justice special agents and this is happening right now. He's claiming it's due to budget reasons but as former Attorney General for California it's probably a lot of politics. Plus it is supposed to help a $71 billion dollar deficit or something and laying off those agents isn't even going to make a dent in that.

          http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...block-layoffs/

          So basically I wouldn't hold your breath for a state investigator job with the economic environment and most states having deficits, especially if you're in California or any state with budget cuts because not only will hiring most likely be frozen for positions like this, but in the case of my state, investigators are being laid off in the hundreds.
          Last edited by Wolf Man; 12-26-2011, 07:39 PM.

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          • #6
            Varies. For example, in AL and VA state special agents are state troopers who get assigned to an investigative position (i.e. the only way to become one is to be a trooper first). On the other hand, in GA and FL there are separate agencies for highway patrol (GA= GSP, FL= FHP) and investigations (GA= GBI, FL= FDLE).

            State investigative jobs can be hard to acquire, even for experienced folks. Last year I applied to one with 4 years experience as a federal agent/1811 doing fraud (the state job was for a fraud agent) and came in at #5 for a vacancy for 1 position.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wolf Man View Post
              I read that Jerry Brown is trying to lay off something like over 170 California Department of Justice special agents and this is happening right now. He's claiming it's due to budget reasons but as former Attorney General for California it's probably a lot of politics. Plus it is supposed to help a $71 billion dollar deficit or something and laying off those agents isn't even going to make a dent in that.

              http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...block-layoffs/

              So basically I wouldn't hold your breath for a state investigator job with the economic environment and most states having deficits, especially if you're in California or any state with budget cuts because not only will hiring most likely be frozen for positions like this, but in the case of my state, investigators are being laid off in the hundreds.
              If you go to the link I listed you will see that the DOJ Special Agent test has been closed for some time. However, there is continuous testing for other state investigator positions with

              State Personnel Board/Statewide
              Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
              Department of Corporations
              Employment Development Department
              Department of Consumer Affairs
              Department of Health Care Services
              Department of Insurance
              Department of Social Services
              Department of Motor Vehicles
              Department of Developmental Services
              Department of Toxic Substances Control
              California State Lottery
              Department of Fair Employment & Housing
              Dept of Mental Health
              Public Employees Retirement System
              Department of Public Health.

              Now, how many vacancies they have at present or anticipate having in the future is another question, but they say they are testing. Look here for further info.

              http://jobs.ca.gov/CASPB/sup/BulPrev...08610&R3=1PB02
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              • #8
                Like others have stated, most state investigator positions are within a State Police/Highway patrol agency. In other words you have to be a Trooper first put some time in on the road, then request a transfer when there is an opening in order to become an investigator. At my agency you’re required to complete a minimum of 3 years of road duty before you can request a transfer to the criminal or narcotics investigation divisions.

                There are some States that have separate bureaus of investigation from their SP/HP. My best advice would be to find a State you would be interested in working and living in, then find out if they have a separate state investigative agency or not.

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                • #9
                  Revive of an old thread.

                  Are there any states similar to California? By that I mean that the state has multiple investigative agencies with limited arrest authority and is consistently hiring.

                  I have a four year degree and a year as a police officer but my real passion and desire has always been investigations.

                  The agency I'm with has very few detectives and the process is very competitive and requires quite a few years of experience.

                  Goal is feds eventually but I'd like to get investigative experience as soon as possible.

                  I'm sure I'm just being naive and the current climate of policing may be getting to me lol.

                  Last edited by ninjaba9; 06-09-2020, 09:40 PM.

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                  • ninjaba9
                    ninjaba9 commented
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                    Also, I should specify somewhere in the Southeast

                • #10
                  Originally posted by ninjaba9 View Post
                  Bump of an old thread.

                  Are there any states similar to California? By that I mean that the state has multiple investigative agencies with limited arrest authority and is consistently hiring.

                  I have a four year degree and a year as a police officer but my real passion and desire has always been investigations.

                  The agency I'm with has very few detectives and the process is very competitive and requires quite a few years of experience.

                  Goal is feds eventually but I'd like to get investigative experience as soon as possible.

                  I'm sure I'm just being naive and the current climate of policing may be getting to me lol.

                  Bump?? You brought this out of the graveyard from 2011
                  I don't answer recruitment messages....

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                  • ninjaba9
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                    Haha that's true

                • #11
                  Originally posted by ninjaba9 View Post
                  Bump of an old thread.

                  Are there any states similar to California? By that I mean that the state has multiple investigative agencies with limited arrest authority and is consistently hiring.

                  I have a four year degree and a year as a police officer but my real passion and desire has always been investigations.

                  The agency I'm with has very few detectives and the process is very competitive and requires quite a few years of experience.

                  Goal is feds eventually but I'd like to get investigative experience as soon as possible.

                  I'm sure I'm just being naive and the current climate of policing may be getting to me lol.

                  I can't speak for other states, but in California, its not so much that these positions have limited arrest authority as that their mission and function is extremely specialized. As an example, I spent many years working for a state agency that had general law enforcement responsibilities. Among other things, we contracted out the services of our people out to these specialized departments when they were short handed. My buddy was assigned to one of these contracts with a state consumer affairs agency who, when the found a violation, revoked or suspended professional licenses issued by the state or imposed administrative fines. After a brief orientation, they turned him loose on his first case.

                  When he was done they asked what he had come up with. He said he had proved several administrative violations, along with obtaining an arrest warrant for the business owner charging two felonies and three misdemeanors related to the administrative violations. Everyone in the office was floored. No one had ever taught them about criminal law and no one had ever considered pursuing criminal matters in connection with their administrative violations. They didn't know what to do.

                  Most likely (and depending on the agency) this is what you will run into investigative jobs like that


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                  • #12
                    North Carolina has the SBI. Georgia has the GBI. But those types of jobs usually require a fair amount of prior LE work. So much so that if you qualify for them you would also probably qualify for a criminal investigator position with the feds. And they usually pay much better than state investigation positions in the southeast. But be advised, with the feds you will move all over the place. Especially away from the southeast because most feds want to go there for the low cost of living. So not always, but often, you will start in a very large city or along the southwest border with an entry level 1811 criminal investigator position.
                    Last edited by SHU; 06-09-2020, 10:39 PM.

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                    • ninjaba9
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                      Wow, I never thought about the typical placement of a brand new 1811 but that makes sense. I'm honestly willing to move anywhere as long as it's compensated for. However, I would prefer the southeast.

                    • ninjaba9
                      ninjaba9 commented
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                      I actually did apply to the GBI! Made it to the written test but I didn't score high enough to move along in the process. If only I had veteren points.

                    • ninjaba9
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                      And you're right the SBI only hires people who either have significant investigative/law enforcement experience or at the very least are certified in North Carolina. Sadly, I have neither of those things.

                  • #13
                    Originally posted by ninjaba9 View Post
                    Revive of an old thread.

                    Are there any states similar to California? By that I mean that the state has multiple investigative agencies with limited arrest authority and is consistently hiring.

                    I have a four year degree and a year as a police officer but my real passion and desire has always been investigations.

                    The agency I'm with has very few detectives and the process is very competitive and requires quite a few years of experience.

                    Goal is feds eventually but I'd like to get investigative experience as soon as possible.

                    I'm sure I'm just being naive and the current climate of policing may be getting to me lol.
                    Did you get a degree you can use like in IT/MIS/CIS/CS/accounting/foreign language or just something like English or CJ? If you got a useful degree you would be competitive for a lot of 1811 gigs within a short time without having to jump to a state investigative agency or wait around where you are to get a slot in a small department. Also look into working at a DAs office as an investigator.

                    I've worked with a few of the state agencies in CA and they seemed to like their work but it is extremely narrow in scope. And the pay is atrocious though I think that's a CA thing. But the states that don't have a dozen or two very narrowed down agency's probably wouldn't be bad long term if you decided against the Fed route or it just never worked out.

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                    • ninjaba9
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                      Sadly, I have one of those useless degrees lol. Thanks for the advice though.

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