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  • CIA Protective Agent or Police Officer

    (whispering)

    Does anyone have any information regarding either of the above positions or going through the employment ringer with this agency...???

    WARNING: This thread will self-distruct after you read it....

    Just kidding but in all seriousness, please opine if you have relevant info - Thanks!

  • #2
    Originally posted by RTR
    I was thinking about applying for both positions. Would like the Protective Agent job better, I think. But both would be a great foot in the door.
    Protective Agent has the following listed as desired requirements on the position's page on the CIA's "Career Opportunities" site: "War Zone deployment experience, Strong knowledge base in all facets of protective operations, Leadership and management experience."

    FWIW, doesn't sound like a "foot in the door" position.
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    • #3
      Their security police department is similar to other federal police agencies. They have multiple units (k9, swat, etc). They are not 6c covered and like Capitol Police they are not part of the excutive branch so you wouldn't be able to click "yes" on the usajobs search

      The protective agents are typically .mil guys from specialized units. It all depends on what you're looking for in a career. The security police training will get you through fletc if that's the kind of foot in the door you're looking for. I know others that have applied for the protective agent position that are 1811's on cabinet member details and weren't even offered an interview....all depends I suppose

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jb5722
        They do get LE pension coverage (both protective agent and uniform officer).

        Their protective agents are usually VERY high speed type people.
        FERS special... Not the law enforcement retirement that is referred where you have to be 37 and younger. It will NOT stop the clock for you.

        And for the one who said they have SWAT... Take that very lightly.

        Put an app in. The Police Officer position IS a good step into the agency.

        Good luck.

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        • #5
          Has anyone applied to the Security protective services? ( police officer )
          I started looking into the position it looks like it may be more security focus with fixed posts then police work though. Would anyone think this a good stepping stone to a 1811 position?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MR.NYC View Post
            it looks like it may be more security focus with fixed posts then police work though.
            That's correct.

            Would anyone think this a good stepping stone to a 1811 position?
            IMO, no. Border Patrol or something similar (active LE job) would be much better.
            I’ll die with blue in my veins.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GoldBadge View Post
              IMO, no. Border Patrol or something similar (active LE job) would be much better.
              You are correct Sir.....

              A couple of my US Park Police buddies were out there doing training with them a few years ago. Said they had amazing equipment and set-up out there.

              When they talked at break/lunch.... the USPP guys were in love with the equipement.... The CIA SPS guys were in love with USPP war stories since they said they were bored to death out there...

              As stated, good way to get yourself into the Agency but probably not a good step if you are looking for LE experience.....and moving onto an 1811 spot....

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              • #8
                Pretty cool gig if you like writing parking tickets for stealing carpool spots or speeding in the brown lot....
                Last edited by izamsilas; 04-11-2011, 06:11 PM.

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                • #9
                  I went to a FLETC leadership course with a NSA SPS Lt. and he said they recently got LE coverage.
                  ...and is commended as being worthy of trust and confidence

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OIG1811 View Post
                    I went to a FLETC leadership course with a NSA SPS Lt. and he said they recently got LE coverage.
                    If you are referring to the retirement, you stated you talked to a NSA Lieutenant, which is not the same as CIA. I, personally, was not aware that the NSA got the LE coverage and will have to ask my friend who just graduated FLETC and is now a NSA Officer. But as far as CIA, as my post earlier indicated, they are under FERS Special. It is not the same as most 1811's and what you think of with the LE coverage where you have to be 37 or younger.

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                    • #11
                      I was thinking about applying SPS after I graduate from college, but for me personally, any job with the CIA would be a dream. On the website they say that you can apply to maximum of (4) positions. With only about a year of non-LE job experience, a policy-based internship, and a bachelors degree in CJ/Sociology, what does everyone think the best four entry level jobs would be? I was thinking for myself personally (besides SPS);

                      -Security Professional (minimum requirement bachelor's degree)

                      -Leadership Analyst (req. psychology, political psychology, sociology, or anthropology degree or related field) and/or

                      -One of the clandestine service trainee programs (for those with an interest in international affairs and WITHOUT extensive experience).

                      Of course, I am in the process of applying for other LE jobs since in all liklihood I will not get in to the agency this early in my career. I recognize that these positions are very competitive, but I want to apply every place that I can as early as I can. But what does everyone think, is it worthwhile to apply without extensive LE experience? If so, what four are best known as the "entry level" jobs?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Msuz View Post
                        Your post
                        You do realize that the CIA IS NOT a LEO Agency...... They do have LEOs working there in some spots.....but as a whole....they are an Intel Agency.......

                        You could have 20 years as a LEO an not get hired by them. Read the core requirements for each position you are interested in, if you think you are qualified, apply......

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MiGuy View Post
                          ... they are under FERS Special. It is not the same as most 1811's and what you think of with the LE coverage where you have to be 37 or younger.
                          How is it different? My SF50 says FERS special and I've been in a covered LE position for 11 years? Is there another FERS Special?
                          ...and is commended as being worthy of trust and confidence

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OIG1811 View Post
                            How is it different? My SF50 says FERS special and I've been in a covered LE position for 11 years? Is there another FERS Special?
                            I guess there is a chance I am wrong but from my understanding it is different. I was under the assumption the percentage per year served is different and tehre are a few other things that have a slight difference as well. From my understanding, this would not stop the clock for those wanting to get into the L.E. retirement fed jobs. There is also no 37 or younger age requirement with it. In fact, I worked with a guy who was hired with me and in his late 40's/early 50's that retired from a state LEO gig.

                            I guess if there is anyone that understands the retirement systems better than I, then if they'd like to chime in... But like I said, from my understanding this is NOT the same as a typical 1911 L.E. retirement.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MiGuy View Post
                              But like I said, from my understanding this is NOT the same as a typical 1911 L.E. retirement.
                              Woah...do NOT want...lol

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