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  • #16
    Hey I agree with you all,

    Trust me I'm still working in LE, but i was stating that once you apply have a heart and family behind you. I applied for 7 FED jobs at one time, I got a few rejection letters, but I didn't let the stop me. I still have a family to support and until the Marshals say report to the academy on this date, I'm going to keep working everyday!!!!!!!

    I think if you guys had to wait two and three years to get in, then I can wait the same if I have to.
    Losing is not an "Option"

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    • #17
      Whew! Thanks for all the responses. I had another question--I worked in IT and networking for a long time, and I think with some study I could get certified Cisco Certified Network Professional (which would qualify me under the IT entry program for the FBI). Would having this additional qualification be likely to increase the chances of getting hired, and/or lower the wait time at some agency? Or is it all pretty random anyway? The certification takes several months of study and is pretty expensive, so I would only do it if it made a difference. But now is the time to start if I want to be certified by May.

      Really, thanks again everyone. That's good advice about applying and then relaxing about it, definitely something I would not have done.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Slow Down View Post
        I applied for 7 FED jobs at one time, I got a few rejection letters, but I didn't let the stop me.
        You shouldn't. When I first starting applying federal, I applied for about a dozen federal jobs where I was only really interested in a handful. I applied for a Special Officer position with the Secret Service and got a very polite, "thanks but no thanks" later. Less than two years later, I was a Secret Service Special Agent.

        Don't give up, but don't let yourself become consumed with the waiting game. Move on and then let yourself be pleasantly surprised.
        They Don’t Think It Be Like It Is, But It Do.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by camerong View Post
          Cisco Certified Network Professional
          To be perfectly honest, this is absolutely Greek to me, but I'm not a cyber agent. What I would do if in your situation, is call whatever agency(ies) you're interested in and ask if this certification would be beneficial to pursue. If the recruiter doesn't know, he can probably find out, but recruiters tend to have the most up-to-date info on what the current recruiting and hiring needs are of a given agency, which is something the typcial field agent (like me) is clueless about.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by camerong View Post
            Whew! Thanks for all the responses. I had another question--I worked in IT and networking for a long time, and I think with some study I could get certified Cisco Certified Network Professional (which would qualify me under the IT entry program for the FBI). Would having this additional qualification be likely to increase the chances of getting hired, and/or lower the wait time at some agency? Or is it all pretty random anyway? The certification takes several months of study and is pretty expensive, so I would only do it if it made a difference. But now is the time to start if I want to be certified by May.
            Simply on the all eggs in basket avoidance principle, I wouldn't pursue the credential if you're solely pursuing it as a way of entry into the FBI. Yes, IT is a critical skill for FBI hiring, but make sure your previous work experience combined with the cert is enough to make it past that benchmark (a few months ago a CNPA was all you needed for entry on the IT path, now it looks like they've revised the criteria to have specific work experience involving working with IT on top of that, the fact that the agency's IT requirements change so quickly may be cautionary advice on betting on a specific certification). Also, while I've never seen any explicit mention of it in their recruiting literature, an IT background may be desirable in a potential ICE investigator (ICE has jurisdictional claims online in relation to child pornography and digital piracy) and Secret Service agent (IIRC the Service was more heavily involved in cybercrime investigation before almost anyone else when "cybercrime" was just called "hacking", nowadays a lot of the legacy mission from protecting the Treasury involves cyber security and investigating breaches of cyber security in the Executive branch and financial institutions). Lastly, there are lots of jobs within all those agencies' IT and analysis departments where an IT background would be valued (and maybe easier on a family).

            All that said, I'd still discourage anyone from pursuing and expending time and money on something exclusively as a doorway into a specific federal law enforcement job (especially while concurrently finishing up a law degree). Be it PT, a certification, a degree, a Six Sigma black belt (does anyone value those anymore?), I think it's wiser and healthier to think of all such pursuits more broadly as "self improvement" than a way to shape yourself into a particular job description. Think, "this will open many doors" instead of "this will get me through this one door down this one corridor."

            I don't mean to sound preachy (my own background imparting guidance to students leaks out now and then), and I will say that within your questions you do present yourself as a pretty well-rounded guy with diverse experience. I'd just say maintain that broad mindedness and avoid "molding" yourself into some illusory template to fit an always adjusting target. In the end, with the lines of work you're looking at your talking about performing a service for your country and society. My thinking is I would want to serve in a capacity in which my country and society makes the best use of my aptitudes and abilities.

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            • #21
              I got into local LE initially as a segue into the Federal realm. Once I became a street cop, I became addicted, and I don't know if I'll ever leave. I don't mean I don't know if I'll ever try to go Federal, but I don't know if I'll ever even leave patrol. Money used to be a motivating factor, now it comes secondary to job satisfaction, which I have to the fullest. Of course, I am speaking about a large Metro area, not Mayberry. YMMV...

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