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  • US Forest Service Law Enforcement Officer

    Has anyone on here ever applied for a position with the US Forest Service Office of Law Enforcement? If so, what was the hiring process like?

    Also, has anyone on this forum ever worked with the law enforcement rangers of the US Forest Service?

  • #2
    Does the Forest Service Office of Law Enforcement hire applicants right out of college or do they prefer applicants with extensive LE experience?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bahrain View Post
      Does the Forest Service Office of Law Enforcement hire applicants right out of college or do they prefer applicants with extensive LE experience?
      They really like to hire folks with some kind of forestry/land management/biology degrees. They also pull a lot of their folks from the seasonal LE workers.

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      • #4
        They really like to hire folks with some kind of forestry/land management/biology degrees. They also pull a lot of their folks from the seasonal LE workers.
        It's actually really hit or miss with USFS. I know a lot of former Border Patrol agents who end up getting on with them, most with no natural resource background. I also don't know that the USFS leans as heavily on seasonals as the Park Service does, with the required certifications and levels of commissions, so I think this makes it more applicant-friendly for anyone trying to come from the outside. All of the LEO's I've knwon really enjoyed their jobs.
        "Sir, does this mean that Ann Margaret's not coming?"

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        • #5
          USFS does not have seasonals like the Park Service. We have what are called Forest Protection Officers, which are not Law Enforcement and they usually work for the forest in another job field such as fire, recreation or range..They do issue violation notices though. I work as an LEO in Southern AZ and I do enjoy my job. So let me know if you want to know anything else..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rugbyguy2000 View Post
            USFS does not have seasonals like the Park Service. We have what are called Forest Protection Officers, which are not Law Enforcement and they usually work for the forest in another job field such as fire, recreation or range..They do issue violation notices though. I work as an LEO in Southern AZ and I do enjoy my job. So let me know if you want to know anything else..

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            • #7
              You need the NPS certification .I applied after retiring from NYPD and was denied due to no NPS .If you live in NY ,NJ,CT you're pretty much svht out of luck because the course is not offered anywhere near here .

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              • #8
                The USFS does not require the NPS cert to apply. I have applied on several occasions and even had a coulpe apps make it through OOP, but no interview. The only agency that requires NPS cert is the NPS.

                nypdout, I here you. I e-mailed NPS HR, and the lady was not very sympathetic about the closest class being 4 hrs away and being 44hrs a week, while I am working a FT and PT job 52hrs a week, lol.

                Mac

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                • #9
                  How do you get NPS certified without working for the NPS??
                  The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed.

                  I Am the Sheepdog.

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                  • #10
                    They offer the NPS cert at a few colleges across the country.

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                    • #11
                      Hmm.. I have never seen one in Florida... Didn't even know such a thing existed
                      The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed.

                      I Am the Sheepdog.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dannmann1050 View Post
                        Hmm.. I have never seen one in Florida... Didn't even know such a thing existed
                        They don't, the nearest one I believe is in NC from the last time I looked at the website. NPS sometimes posts the website to find that info when they post the vacancy, but not all the time.

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                        • #13
                          Back to the OP: we work with USFS guys on a regular basis, and I have worked a few college/LE career days with some of their folks, so we get to share precisely what you are looking for for info.

                          Jobs for USFS are posted on & applied through Avue Digital Services. You can also find the postings on USAJobs, but that will refer you back to Avue for the application part. Your best best for a permanent position is to work on a seasonal or temp position, and it doesn't have to be in LE as long as it is with the USFS. FS is USDA, NPS and others are USDI, so while there is some commonality there are some distinctly major differences.

                          I had a session with some USDI guys at their training center (NCTC) in Shepherdstown, WV, this last January - nice place - but am not aware if USDA has anything quite like that very fine facility.

                          It can take time to get there. And yes, most require some type of NR degree or at least an equivalent in experience, or else you MIGHT get in but at quite a reduced GS rate. It will depend greatly upon the particular postion.

                          Most that we have around here started as either seasonal or temp somewhere else and worked their way in to LE as an originally chosen field. There are a few who were originally from the granite state, got hired out west or down south and then came back here once they got permanent. It helps to have a goal and a plan so you don't lose focus on your end game. One guy I knew who seriously wanted to be in LE took his first job as a tour guide in a fairly urban environment - quite far removed from an NR LEO position but it was with the right agency and the end result is now he is doing what he wanted to all along.

                          A nice thing about these NR fed agencies is that they will commit some serious training to various seasonal positions, whereas most states (like mine) won't unless you are permanent.

                          All the USFS LEO's I've met are some seriously fine folks.

                          Get to know the folks at your nearest forest. They are almost all quite helpful.
                          The opinions expressed here are from the individual only and do not represent the view of any agency that the poster may be affiliated with

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                          • #14
                            These guys are hard core. I've worked with them quite a bit as a seasonal FS FPO.
                            Last edited by FS_Miles07; 11-05-2011, 11:49 PM.
                            Stay the Course. -The Patriot

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                            • #15
                              I went through LMPT @ FLETC with a few guys with the USFS, they seem to like it, I have a buddy that had to move from the east coast to the west coast for the job and is trying to get back east asap. They deal with alot of cannibas garden. Cool job none the less, i would apply if a position ever opened near TN.

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