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  • #16
    SA13's mentioning of the ATF's Explosive Enforcement Officer piqued my interest. Here is the fact sheet right off the ATF website if any of you are interested:

    http://www.atf.gov/press/factsheets/...tsheet-eeo.pdf

    Evidently they are 1811's first (or too), as evidenced in this excerpt:

    Training
    Following criminal investigator basic training, EEOs take ATF courses on Post Blast Investigation, Chemistry of Pyrotechnics, Advanced Explosives Destruct Training, Advanced Explosives Investigation Training and other internationally available courses. EEOs also attend the Hazardous Devices School (HDS) at the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Ala. HDS is a 6-week certification course required for many of the responsibilities administered by EEOs. Additionally, the majority of the EEOs previously served as explosives specialists in the U.S. military where they received one year of specialized explosives training.

    There are only 25 of them in the ATF, with 3 supervisory EEO's. Very exclusive club, but a pretty cool job description nonetheless.
    Gimme a Diablo sammich and a Dr. Pepper, and make it snappy - I'm in a gotd**n hurry!

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    • #17
      EEOs are not 1811s. They attend the Criminal Investigator Training Program (CITP) at FLETC, but they do not attend the Special Agent Basic Training (SABT) at the ATF National Academy at FLETC.

      Further, there are other federal employees, who are LEOs, that attend CITP, but are not 1811s. Just because a job allows or requires someone to attend CITP does not mean they will be employed as an 1811, and does not mean they are in a "covered" job.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SA13 View Post
        EEOs are not 1811s. They attend the Criminal Investigator Training Program (CITP) at FLETC, but they do not attend the Special Agent Basic Training (SABT) at the ATF National Academy at FLETC.

        Further, there are other federal employees, who are LEOs, that attend CITP, but are not 1811s. Just because a job allows or requires someone to attend CITP does not mean they will be employed as an 1811, and does not mean they are in a "covered" job.
        Gotcha. I thought once you went to CITP, you were an 1811. Is it the SABT specific to each agency that makes them 1811's? What is the "deciding" factor between a basic criminal investigator and an 1811?
        Gimme a Diablo sammich and a Dr. Pepper, and make it snappy - I'm in a gotd**n hurry!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BigTrooper View Post
          Gotcha. I thought once you went to CITP, you were an 1811. Is it the SABT specific to each agency that makes them 1811's? What is the "deciding" factor between a basic criminal investigator and an 1811?
          It's really what the agency hired the person to do, ie what job series the person applied for and was hired to do. It has nothing to do with whether they get to attend particular training. For example, when I got hired by my first agency, I applied for, and was hired as an 1811. From the first day I started I was an "1811," and paid in that job series, despite the fact that I wouldn't attend CITP and the agency specific basic course for several months, with my badge, creds, and swearing in coming many months after being hired at the end of all that training.

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          • #20
            Excellent, thanks for the clarification. It makes good sense...
            Gimme a Diablo sammich and a Dr. Pepper, and make it snappy - I'm in a gotd**n hurry!

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            • #21
              It should also be noted that one does not need to attend CITP as an 1811.

              FBI, DEA, and USPIS have their own basic academies and therefore do not attend CITP, but FBI and DEA SAs, and Postal Inspectors, are all 1811s. AFOSI had their own academy until FY03, and their civilian agents are all 1811s.

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